[UO Herald] FoF: Horde Minions and Pink Bunnies

[UO Herald News]

This week's Five on Friday has details on the Stygian Abyss client, ghost cams, and horde minions.



To read the full article click here (http://uoherald.com/fof/?fofId=138).

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[Viper09]

Nice :D

[Bardie]

"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"
-whoever asked this needs to b shot...really u waste it on this?

[Connor_Graham]

"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"
-whoever asked this needs to b shot...really u waste it on this?

Somebody in game probably complained to a player about it, giving him/her all kinds of grief for intelligently using a game mechanic in exactly the way it was designed, and they wanted to know for sure.

Now they do. And so does everyone else.

[GL_Seller]

ROFL i agree with bardie. I sent in 20+ questions that need to be answered and they answer **** like this.

Does it count as a answer if you just say we are working on it? If so next week just go like this.

Are u fixing speedhacking?

We are working on it.

Are you fixing duping?

We are working on it.

Are you fixing client hacks?

We are working on it.

Why is the lag still around?

We are working on it.

My blue beetle can hold 1600 stones is this cheating?

[BloodstoneGL]

"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"
-whoever asked this needs to b shot...really u waste it on this?

Hehe you belong on my forum

[Aboo]

Still nothing on the 11th Anniversary Items. :sad4:

[DanTheMan19]

yet another ****ty FOF

[Ender]

i use potions and curse weapon so i don't need healing is that cheating?

[DHMagicMan_1]

Still nothing on the 11th Anniversary Items. :sad4:

I'm telling you... December of '09, if the game still exists, we'll have the codes available by then.

[deadite]

It was a good FOF. A mix of vet questions and newbie questions it seems.

Some of you people whine too much. It's embarrassing.

[the 4th man]

It was a good FOF. A mix of vet questions and newbie questions it seems.

Some of you people whine too much. It's embarrassing.


You're so right....ignore the few that BP&M every FoF.....they don't represent those of us that appreciate what you're doing.

".....I sent in questions......" -man, get a life already.

[Aboo]

It was a good FOF. A mix of vet questions and newbie questions it seems.

Some of you people whine too much. It's embarrassing.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you.

I personally wasn't impressed with this week's FoF. Nothing in it interested or excited me. I keep holding out hope, ridiculously so it seems, that they may actually address the 11th Anniversary items since it is almost 2 months past when they said we would have them.

However, for whoever asked the questions I am sure they are happy with the FoF. So I say to each their own WITHOUT belittling someone else because their don't agree with me.

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

pink bunnies...

[Aboo]

pink bunnies...Didn't we have purple bunnies too last year? Seems like someplace I have a purple bunny in someone's stable. :eyes:

[Maplestone]

One thing I would like to see for the SA client are realistic system specs for good performance. Unlike most games where people are deciding if they want to buy the game based on their system, MMORPG vets are going to be deciding if they need to buy a new computer to go with the game.

I've been surprised by the lack of hoard minions I've encountered in my travels.

I don't take my pink/purple bunnies out of the stable very often, but they are still very cute.

Are there significant changes in how SA handles macros vs KR? Will there be any pass to unify the way SA and 2D clients handle macros so make it easier for people to convert? Will there be a way (in the game interface) to import/export macros/bars? (It would be nice to just import a "fishing template" of macro bars to any fisherman I have)

Although "it's on our radar"-type answers are nice, they aren't terribly satifying without an idea if its in the next publish, is early in design, or is simply on the wishlist. ( I guess no matter how much information we get, we'll want more :) )

( *settles in for a nice long evening of escapism* )

[Wakiza]

It's great they choose to hit tougher questions this week!

PINK BUNNIES!

[Viper09]

And yet no one is talking about the ghost cam question, thought people would be all happy to hear they are going to fix it.
May not be "set-in-stone" on when they plan to have it fixed, but it's a safe answer.

[Ender]

One thing I would like to see for the SA client are realistic system specs for good performance. Unlike most games where people are deciding if they want to buy the game based on their system, MMORPG vets are going to be deciding if they need to buy a new computer to go with the game.

wait wat

[Petra Fyde]

I begin to feel almost guilty for asking a question that got answered.

[Maplestone]

wait wat
I mean the recommended system specs ... KR's "real" required system specs for the game to be playable were much, much higher than then the officially stated requirements. That led to situations where people went out, bought a lower-end new computer only to discover it still didn't run the game. Needless to say, that's not a recipe for happy campers.

[Aboo]

I begin to feel almost guilty for asking a question that got answered.No one should feel guilty about asking a question that got answered. Everyone is different and everything they feel is important to UO is different. That's what makes UO great!

[Petra Fyde]

Must have been a good one, no one's complained about it yet :D

[Yalp]

I see a new thread being started called....

Is this cheating.......I can hardly wait for the hilarity!


I called out the words Kal Ort Por and targeted a small oval on the ground which instantly put me in a different location... is that cheating?

Indeed.. report immediately to the Capt of the Royal Guard for imprisonment.

[Petrify]

"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"

No, that’s what they do, pick up items on the ground.
-Mesanna

Oh. My. God. Just when you thought FoF couldn't get any worse.

"Are you planning to do anything about the ghost cams?"

Yes, we hope to have a fix for this in the future

Translation: Well, we want to but we can't think of anything that would fix it, so we're probably just going to keep saying "soon" every time you ask us about it.

"Will the pink bunnies come back?"

Not this year, we have something else in mind.

Translation: Nah. We might do something else though if we feel like it.

[ColterDC]

That was completely worthless...as usual.

[Restroom Cowboy]

BUNNIES! oh and 1337 stoned horde minions! YAY!

[Maplestone]

That was completely worthless...as usual.
Out of curiosity, what questions did you submit?

[MalagAste]

I didn't think it was totally worthless......

I happen to like my neon bunny..... I am glad however that they aren't bringing them back this year and they plan on something else.... I really like the idea...

Valentines day is fun..... I enjoy my rose's..... cards(though I think I could do with a WHOLE lot LESS of them).... 1 or 2 cards is more than plenty.... if you have that many more sweethearts then.... well somethings wrong...

Anyway.... I know not every question is for everyone... though I too am waiting highly impatiently for word on the 11th anniversary stuff.... I want the nice tree's and things that they got on the Japanese shards. I will keep waiting. *sighs*

[canary]

LOL aside from the first question this was, again, a bad FoF.

Re: horde minion... she mighta well answered a 'Is it cheating if I shoot an arrow from my bow?'. Really.

As a side note I see that we will not be getting better, cleaner artwork. Le sigh.

[Restroom Cowboy]

LOL aside from the first question this was, again, a bad FoF.

Re: horde minion... she mighta well answered a 'Is it cheating if I shoot an arrow from my bow?'. Really.

As a side note I see that we will not be getting better, cleaner artwork. Le sigh.

if you want the *true* gist of what they were hinting at with the minion...revisit my last post. :)

[Kiminality]

They could include a cure for cancer in the FoF, and there would still be complainers...

Fact is, if the question/answer doesn't interest a person, then they'll view it as a wasted question. And, there's not a question in the world that would interest everyone.
Not to mention the tendency for certain people to look gift horses in the mouth, complain, and then demand the nerfing of gift horses that have better teeth than the one they were given.

[Petrify]

Fact is, if the question/answer doesn't interest a person, then they'll view it as a wasted question.

Who in the world would be interested in:


"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"

No, that’s what they do, pick up items on the ground.
-Mesanna

[Ender]

Fact is, if the question/answer doesn't interest a person, then they'll view it as a wasted question.

Who in the world would be interested in:


"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"

No, that’s what they do, pick up items on the ground.
-Mesanna

New players that don't even know about the FoF and won't even see it maybe? I don't know, honestly.

[AesSedai]

LOL aside from the first question this was, again, a bad FoF.

Re: horde minion... she mighta well answered a 'Is it cheating if I shoot an arrow from my bow?'. Really.

As a side note I see that we will not be getting better, cleaner artwork. Le sigh.- I thought the first question was a bummer, personally. Some people (like umm maybe me) might have preferred KR graphics (if they were polished up and fixed-up a bit more) and that extra 70% of animation that their computers could handle (like with a toggle switch for high / mid / low animations, so that others wouldn't have to suffer)...
Le sigh indeed, heh.
I see some people are making a fuss about the horde minion subject. Well, I'm almost positive it was a help to some players that have not messed with them and weren't aware of that ability.
I've hoped they would have a fix for ghost cams in the future for quite awhile. I'm glad this subject has resurfaced on uo.com.
Weddings are finally back, thanks to the EMs. I remember the disappointment when that ended. I'm almost positive sure it will please several players.

[AesSedai]

New players that don't even know about the FoF and won't even see it maybe? I don't know, honestly.- Surely new players have accessed uo.com. So, why wouldn't they know about the FoF? ;)

[canary]

I've hoped they would have a fix for ghost cams in the future for quite awhile.

The problem though is that this 'fix' has been 'on the radar' and 'in the future' for AGES. Not having any set-ish timeline really just wastes a question otherwise. I mean, it's like someone just handed them a magic 8 ball and said 'have at it'. It's borderline embarrassing.

[^Wolfie^]

LOL, you all don't get the entire "horde minion" deal. When you see horde minions at the bank fresh from a champ spawn, check it's stone weight and you will see why people are bitchin'...

[Gheed]

- Surely new players have accessed uo.com. So, why wouldn't they know about the FoF? ;)

But how much time would new players spend digging through all of the FoF posts? How many veterans ask questions that have already been answered in many past FoF posts? FoF was never a game playguide to me. That should be it's own searchable entity.

There are thousands of tidbits like this that just shouldn't be here in a FoF... at least like this. General gamplay questions should be answered in the guide. And if they aren't in the guide they should be added to it when they are answered in a FoF. Guide additions/answers should be annotated with a UO guide link. Doing it this way This familiarizes players (new and veteran) with the guide as a valuable refference point for all of their general gameplay questions. This also makes the enormous task of keeping the guide updated a little easier to accomplish by chipping away at it a little each week. In time, the guide on uo.com could become the main single point of reference instead of player ran sites.

I look forward to the FoF. Many do. I hope to see some kind hint on an up and coming expansion or event. Maybe the inside scoop on a hot in game issue or corporate change that effect my gameplay (for the good). I don't know the numbers or what most others look forward to... but seeing one sentence question/answer posts makes me feel like it was thrown together in minutes to collect a paycheck.

I want the FoF to reflect and enforce the great effort all of the devs pour into their work. One question did that for me this time. The rest I can't remember... save that one question about... the necro pet... well I forgot it now. Maybe I'll ask it again someday and it will be in the FoF.

[Experimental]

I didn't think it was totally worthless......

I happen to like my neon bunny..... I am glad however that they aren't bringing them back this year and they plan on something else.... I really like the idea...

Valentines day is fun..... I enjoy my rose's..... cards(though I think I could do with a WHOLE lot LESS of them).... 1 or 2 cards is more than plenty.... if you have that many more sweethearts then.... well somethings wrong...

Anyway.... I know not every question is for everyone... though I too am waiting highly impatiently for word on the 11th anniversary stuff.... I want the nice tree's and things that they got on the Japanese shards. I will keep waiting. *sighs*


You type like William Shatner talks. ugh.

[Deb]

Hmmmmm...8 more months and we will be at the 12 th anniversary.
Who would have guessed in 1997 that UO would still be here and
flourishing? I, for one am glad that it is.:love::love:

[Viper09]

Hmmmmm...8 more months and we will be at the 12 th anniversary.
Who would have guessed in 1997 that UO would still be here and
flourishing? I, for one am glad that it is.:love::love:

I thought this game would have gone under years ago :p

Naturally, I am glad it is still around :D

[Restroom Cowboy]

LOL, you all don't get the entire "horde minion" deal. When you see horde minions at the bank fresh from a champ spawn, check it's stone weight and you will see why people are bitchin'...

DING DING DING!!!!

[Heartseeker]

I found the art work question disappointing.

I was really hoping that the game would get polished up.

KR is still fuzzy with certain objects.

Like another poster said, why can't we have a toggle to have higher quality graphics available to those with higher end systems.

[Snakeman]

Pink Bunnies & Horde Minions!!! You have got to be kidding.... I'm sorry but stupid questions like this get answered & GAME INHIBITING PLAYING Issues **AKA LAG** that players have been looking for answers that have plagued many of us players for the last 3 months get overlooked! Ingenious

I understand answering player questions can be hard. But I do think the obvious trivial questions need not take top priority when there are seriously more issues that make players quit the game then not having Pink Bunnies or Horde minions as mini vacuum cleaners. Lag makes me & others rethink renewing game play when it HINDERS mine/others playing, Scripters upset trade economy, the many KR issues, Loosing transferring Items (complete packs) upon shard transferring ( http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=123331 ), Insurance Bugs, items dropping to corpse that are Insured/Blessed, Speed hacks, Game hacks.... These questions are on 90% of the player based minds. I think they need to be addressed before "Are we going to have Pink Bunnies this year" almost 3 Mos before Easter! Sorry to rant, but gosh PINK Bunnie questions as importaint :(

[Saunders]

Pink bunnies aren't an Easter spawn, but a Valentine's day one. They were cute, and I have two in training to go hunting with some day (sadly they don't get a pack insinct. A pack of fully trained killer bunnies would be awesome!). Just beacause not everybody is interested in them it doesn't mean that some people aren't very interested, and looking forward to seeing what new evil is in store!

[GalenKnighthawke]

People's reactions to the FoF often bewilder me.

I'm not saying it was great, but if the idea is to answer stuff being spammed about on the boards....

"Will the SA client be taking advantage of the higher resolution art, or will that cause too much latency?"
I have seen many questions about the degree to which the SA client will be "truly" high-end, or if it'll be more like KR. More or less, this FoF answers that question.


"Is it cheating to use horde minions to loot the gold in the champ spawn?"
On one level, this is a stupid thing to deal with, because the answer seems obvious....But on another level, while I haven't seen this one asked about on the boards much, I have heard of necromancers being harassed at spawns.

However I've also seen other "tricks" used to get gold (hiding gold behind a distant tree, for purposes of getting it away from others so it can be transported back a little at a time) subject to harassment. I'd actually like to see those addressed too, out of curiosity.

"Will the pink bunnies come back?"
Pre-emptive. Someone would have asked them this, 100% guaranteed, even if they hadn't been asked this yet.

"What increments is the 'delay' in uo 2D macro options measured in? How would I set a delay of 8 seconds between actions?"
No idea why this one even came up. "Filler?"

"Are you planning to do anything about the ghost cams?"
Seen this one spammed about on the boards for years. The answer, while it's far from definitive and doesn't even make a promise they can break, does suggest something important: They see this as an issue, and an issue that wasn't fixed with the Exorcism spell alone.

So. 2 out of 5 were legitimately spammed about on boards. 1 out of 5 came up in-game, if not on the boards. 1 out of 5 was something there was nearly a 100% chance of being asked, even if it hadn't been yet. And 1 out of 5 seems to have been filler and filler alone. If anyone's asked about that, ever, I've somehow missed it totally.

The ratio really isn't bad at all.

-Galen's player

[Redxpanda]

I think the horde minion and the ghost cam were good questions.

The problem is either the person who asked the horde minion question wasn't clear or they misunderstood them.

The ghost cam answer was better than nothing. Normally they leave those subjects alone until we see changes in a publish. It's good to know that they are admitting they are aware of it and will hopefully come up with something to take care of that one day.

[Viper09]

Can't please everyone, particularly the constantly unhappy people.

They don't answer a constantly brought up question such as ghost cams: People get mad
They give the only safe answer they can on ghost cams: People get mad

If they give a deadline for a fix and can't seem to make that deadline, then we are going to have a lot more upset people complaining that they didn't fulfill their promise or we will end up with a horrible fix that may only mean more bugs. Particularly with a coded game like this.

Mythic knows this of course and want to be safe in their answers.

[Petra Fyde]

"What increments is the 'delay' in uo 2D macro options measured in? How would I set a delay of 8 seconds between actions?"No idea why this one even came up. "Filler?"


-Galen's player

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=121604

Because I thought it would be useful information to know. It's frustrated me many times when trying to make a macro in the client with a delay in it. A count of 20 per second is hardly an intuitive guess.

[Redxpanda]

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=121604

Because I thought it would be useful information to know. It's frustrated me many times when trying to make a macro in the client with a delay in it. A count of 20 per second is hardly an intuitive guess.

AH HA! I knew someone would get you to fess up lol

[ElvishArcher]

I think the horde minion and the ghost cam were good questions.

The problem is either the person who asked the horde minion question wasn't clear or they misunderstood them.



Totally in agreement on the 2 of 5 being decent questions (sorta, keep reading). The Bunnies, well, I agree with another poster who said eventually someone somewhere would ask that one (UO is filled with "gimme gimme" types).But that is a silly question for a FoF IMHO.

However, regarding the horde minion question... they OBVIOUSLY know that question could be found via normal guides available at both the Stratics and main UO sites, which in my opinion kinda makes it a waste of a question to answer in any other way then a response stating "please review such and such website for normal gameplay questions." Now if the "asker" of said question intended to ask about the enormous weight issue with them, fine. But this question/answer should have either been ignored since its easily found info OR at least ALSO addressed the issue of weights.

And I don't know why, but I'm STILL stuck on that bunny question!! FoF shouldn't be about deco items, freebies etc etc when there are wayyyyy to many REAL issues effecting gameplay such as duping issues, housing issues (sooo many OSI owned homes, dsafsasa ring a bell anyone?). I could go on and on about the REAL issues but like as if that would accomplish much lol.

This post is NOT directed towards ANYONE so if you don't agree, so be it! Everyone has a right to their own opinions... mine: FoF this week was a COP OUT!!

[Basara]

Yeah, to confirm Petra's point - people HAVE been asking that on Stratics, and frankly, I didn't know the answer, and I personally never saw someone reply to the couple threads I've seen on the subject WITH the answer.

[Basara]

Pink Bunnies & Horde Minions!!! You have got to be kidding.... I'm sorry but stupid questions like this get answered & GAME INHIBITING PLAYING Issues **AKA LAG** that players have been looking for answers that have plagued many of us players for the last 3 months get overlooked! Ingenious

You know, if you'd actually stop complaining about ALTER.NET'S faulty router, like it somehow belongs to EA, maybe you might get somewhere.

ALMOST EVERY trace you've posted in the last few months, shows the ALTER.NET router that is that network's gateway into EA, as the problem - and the few that don't only show lag problems with the EA servers immediately after it. PLUS, you only show a TRACE - one trip through the route. Traces are meaningless unless you do a poll of a few hundred iterations (since, as you are using uotrace, is easily done), as it shows EXACTLY, over time, where the issue is, because that's where the big numbers start.

A bad router two steps into a 15-step journey can cause any of the later steps to show a lag, even if it pinged normally, on a single trace, as all those later steps' pings go THROUGH the bad one. Hence, the need for doing polling for multiple checks of all steps.

Your constant complaints are like you demanding that a dealership fix your car's "faulty suspension" that keeps bouncing you out of your seat, when the reason you keep getting bounced around is that you live in a neighborhood with multiple speed bumps between the entrance and your house.

[Snakeman]

If you can show a way to Poll like we use to I'd be happy to poll 100 times or more. You can't any more. If there were other places giving a Bottle necking up, I'd post that, but unfortunately those are the only 2 places who pop up with Ping issues almost consistently every 45 sec to 75 sec?
If it was just me, ya, it's my faulty net. But friends in Canada, Ca, Tx, Il with a Total diff DSL provider & even on Cable, show same bottle neck spot for lag, so it isn't just in my driveway the speedbump. It's in alot of peoples path.

If you could kindly show or tell me how to Poll multiple times so I don't get like what's below & I will. At one time you could poll, for the last 2 yrs you have not been able to. Ty

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t139/Snakeman428cj/contping.jpg

btw, hasn't EA asked for trace routes to be submitted?? Is that not what I have done?

[ElvishArcher]

Your constant complaints are like you demanding that a dealership fix your car's "faulty suspension" that keeps bouncing you out of your seat, when the reason you keep getting bounced around is that you live in a neighborhood with multiple speed bumps between the entrance and your house.

Got a nice laugh off this one... thank you Basara I really needed a good laugh lol! And I agree... 80+% the time the actual lag issues are truly NOT always on UO's end of things.

As for Petra's question regarding delay timers writing macros? Agreed, there are no resources on that one that I could find, then again I use UOAssist for my macros, at least until SA takes full launch then I doubt Assist will be available anymore so to me this was a good question... one I will likely need an answer to eventually as will the rest of those who use UOAssist right now but must change with SA! So edit my last response... 2.5 of 5 decent questions this week (1/2 point for half the complete answer to the Horde Minion question). Doubt my mind will convert the other 2.5 FoF questions :Dthough

[AesSedai]

If you can show a way to Poll like we use to I'd be happy to...- I'd been wondering why you were posting without any polling :)
I think I even told you before that it isn't very beneficial to the EA Team without a poll...
;)

Dang, I just made a nice graphical walk-thru of the 'uo trace route' process I just successfully used, but I don't have access to my user/pass on photobucket until I get back to my 'password vault' on Monday.

Hope this will help:
1 Hit trace route button
2 Hit poll button
3 Let it run for awhile before taking a screenshot

That UO Trace program has worked for me on all versions of Windows; although it has siezed-up my PC with Vista (which I'm on now / just used successfully), if I try to retrieve the server list & I also have to maximize it in Vista in order to view it in the first place (it will not open at all unless I right click & select Maximize from its tab on the Windows taskbar).
Perhaps we have different versions of the UO Trace program; but it does still poll for me (even if it has not been updated for WinVista).

(x: btw, I agree that it looks to be alter.net & -not- EA that is causing the problem. EA/UO addressed that, I believe, in an easy-to-miss FoF early December, when they said they isolated the issue to something beyond their control. Unfortunately both EA/UO corporations and end-users need to be yelling at alter.net types that are causing this situation, imho... gl)

[Petra Fyde]

If you haven't got it, save this list in your uotrace folder with the name SERVER.cfg

[GameServers]
0=AOL Legends (aollegends.owo.com),0
1=Arirang (arirang.owo.com),0
2=Asuka (asuka.owo.com),0
3=Atlantic (atlantic.owo.com),0
4=Baja (baja.owo.com),0
5=Balhae (balhae.owo.com),0
6=Catskills (catskills.owo.com),0
7=Chesapeake (chesapeake.owo.com),0
8=Drachenfels (drachenfels.owo.com),0
9=Europa (europa.owo.com),0
10=Formosa (formosa.owo.com),0
11=Great Lakes (greatlakes.owo.com),0
12=Hokuto (hokuto.owo.com),0
13=Izumo (izumo.owo.com),0
14=Lake Austin (lakeaustin.owo.com),0
15=Lake Superior (lakesuperior.owo.com),0
16=Mizuho (mizuho.owo.com),0
17=Mugen (mugen.owo.com),0
18=Napa Valley (napavalley.owo.com),0
19=Oceania (oceania.owo.com),0
20=Origin (origin.owo.com),0
21=Pacific (pacific.owo.com),0
22=Siege Perilous (siegeperilous.owo.com),0
23=Sakura (sakura.owo.com),0
24=Sonoma (sonoma.owo.com),0
25=Wakoku (wakoku.owo.com),0
26=Yamato (yamato.owo.com),0 I usually do 'trace route' 'poll' 'stop poll' 'edit' 'copy'
Then in my post here use 'code' with the appropriate brackets and closing ' /code' to paste my route here.

I don't think 'retrieve server list' has worked properly for some years, but paste that list into a notepad file and save it with that file name and it should be all good. No need to screen print, edit, copy, in uotrace followed by ctrl v in the post works fine. Using the 'code' tags makes it easier to read.

[Snakeman]

- I'd been wondering why you were posting without any polling :)
I think I even told you before that it isn't very beneficial to the EA Team without a poll...
;)

Dang, I just made a nice graphical walk-thru of the 'uo trace route' process I just successfully used, but I don't have access to my user/pass on photobucket until I get back to my 'password vault' on Monday.

Hope this will help:
1 Hit trace route button
2 Hit poll button
3 Let it run for awhile before taking a screenshot

That UO Trace program has worked for me on all versions of Windows; although it has siezed-up my PC with Vista (which I'm on now / just used successfully), if I try to retrieve the server list & I also have to maximize it in Vista in order to view it in the first place (it will not open at all unless I right click & select Maximize from its tab on the Windows taskbar).
Perhaps we have different versions of the UO Trace program; but it does still poll for me (even if it has not been updated for WinVista).

(x: btw, I agree that it looks to be alter.net & -not- EA that is causing the problem. EA/UO addressed that, I believe, in an easy-to-miss FoF early December, when they said they isolated the issue to something beyond their control. Unfortunately both EA/UO corporations and end-users need to be yelling at alter.net types that are causing this situation, imho... gl)

It won't let it poll for some reason, It did a few yrs ago & it was fine for me, but now be it because it is Verizon DSL now & before I had a diff DSL provider, I have no clue. But above post is what I get. All Black Outs


I did go out & look for the last cpl of hrs between work at my Answering Svc & found a little Trace Route program with a poll that actually worked. I polled the EA end IP address 159.153.209.30 ( napavalley.owo.com ) 100 times from my ofc I use. This is what I received back. Kind of interesting really, it shows the route going from myself in Vt (Burlington, Vt DSL Pool, How it's Reston,Va I'll never know but may places list us as Va for some reason.), to Boston, Mass across country to San Jose, Calif then back across country to Ashburn, Va. then back Across country again to Redwood City, Ca.
Back & forth across the country 2x's would make anyone lag..


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t139/Snakeman428cj/Trrt100x.jpg

All I have tried to do is show where I have "Lagged up" on IP's on my route to Napa Valley, others from Ca had the same. They asked for Trace Routes, I gave them what I had, (did many push the trace route on UOTrace to lock in Diff IP's that were showing problems since My Poll would black all out as non pollable as the picture a cpl of post back shows.) that is all. If some want to crucify me for posting/showing what I had for results, then so be it. But that is where my problems were occuring. I was hoping to help people, & help all having a lag issue. maybe something shown would help someone. Not Point fingers at 1 particular ISP or Corp. as the problem. I showed what I had & saw.


** Edit I did do a UOTraceRoute poll on my Old ISP that I used before. (Fired up my old computer I had been using til the other day & did this test) I have 3 Separate DSL Lines, 2 Diff providers all with different DSL Speeds. An the Old DSL (Different DSL Provider) one will allow a Poll, go Figure)

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, just explaining. Ty