The PvP Heated Discussion / Smack Thread

Firstly, a word of warning:
If you can't handle the trash talk, don't come into this thread.

I will allow smack talk (moreso than normal threads that would likely have been locked on the forum), however, please do not get carried away with it.

Now, this thread is aimed to give the 'PvPers' who wish to discuss PvP topics and smack talk a place to do so.

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And lastly:
If you can't handle the trash talk, don't come into this thread.

[ReturnOfVII]

Giving 1v1 pvp lessons on sunday mornings first lessons free, BTH i have to charge dbl due to the extra attention to the 1v1 lessons.TY very much.

[Delaro]

And you are??????? Some no body talking smack. Hmm.. do you actually PvP outside the yew gate becuase I rarely see any one outside of 5 -d- and a few PK.

Do you have a charater to go along with that smack?

[ReturnOfVII]

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And you are??????? Some no body talking smack.

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Funny I can ask you the same. LOL I must be before your time kido, yes I've been around since before the release of AOS, transfered my red char named VII to Origin first day transfers opened to the shard. Apparently you don't read much of the boards. I was at one time a member of Illuminati and BTH. I've recently returned after a yr long break. No you wouldn't see much of me at yew gate anyhow, I prefer a challange which is probally why you haven't seen me as of yet since I've been back because there isn't much of a challange on Origin at the moment. I am currently PVPing on a more challanging shard although my presents will be felt on Origin soon enuff. Hopefully by then some of you will learn how to stand a 1v1 challange rather then 5v1.

[Delaro]

Kiddo??? Well if being in my 30's is a kiddo then 1/2 the players of origin must still be in diapers, I'm a 7th year vet and as far as the old guild on Origin go.. well nothing to bother with. As far as the guild you are.. were.. whatever.. Nobody seems to recall you in BTH so apperantly your skill at spamming is far from player ability.

[ReturnOfVII]

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Nobody seems to recall you in BTH so apperantly your skill at spamming is far from player ability.

[/ QUOTE ] Maybe thats because all the good players like myself have moved on and left BTH once the mass recruiting started last fall (Pub got skeerd when guilds xsharded over and needed more meat shields). We didn't feel BTH was a worthy enuff PVP guild for us. But don't worry kiddo (yes I say kiddo not for your age but for the immature response) like I said you'll found out who I am soon enuff. Running with a zerg doesn't make you a good PVPer nor doesn't it make you a judge of who's good or not. So basically your epeen is worthless as much as your pvp skills but my offer still stands on the PVP 1v1.

I also don't know who you are, and i've probably been with BTH alot longer then you, so please inform us as to whom you were/are so we can avoid all of this unnecessary bashing of ppl. who you have probably never meet on the battlefield.

[ReturnOfVII]

first off no ones bashing anyone I was just offering PVP 1v1 lessons to those I felt needed them the most, on sunday mornings. And if you were BTH members seeing how they rarely if ever have 1v1 I would of had to charge dbl for the extra attention.

Now as far as you not remembering me, don't worry because the ones the actually matter do remember.

??? Is it just me? or am I the only one who doesn't understand what he's saying?

[Drax-GVA]

It's just you.

[Kai Allard]

Whats with Yew Gate anyways?
Why not another Gate?
Are there any other Gates people fight at?

[Delaro]

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Whats with Yew Gate anyways?
Why not another Gate?
Are there any other Gates people fight at?

[/ QUOTE ]

It seems to change as years go by, my favorite was the brit crossways.. no guard zones. Yew is just a lame way to fight, to many houses to hide in and guards zones are just way to big.

[Drax-GVA]

1. Closeby houses for the reds to hide in when they're outnumbered....and for everyone to re-reg/pot up when dead.

2. No closeby server lines.

[Delaro]

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Nobody seems to recall you in BTH so apperantly your skill at spamming is far from player ability.

[/ QUOTE ] Maybe thats because all the good players like myself have moved on and left BTH once the mass recruiting started last fall (Pub got skeerd when guilds xsharded over and needed more meat shields). We didn't feel BTH was a worthy enuff PVP guild for us. But don't worry kiddo (yes I say kiddo not for your age but for the immature response) like I said you'll found out who I am soon enuff. Running with a zerg doesn't make you a good PVPer nor doesn't it make you a judge of who's good or not. So basically your epeen is worthless as much as your pvp skills but my offer still stands on the PVP 1v1.

[/ QUOTE ]


Hmm.. well I've played on Atlantic in all the top Guilds, I've been on Pac and Gl. I don't recall seeing you name or have even heard of you on any of those servers. Nobody I asked seems to ever have heard of you. No other server are even to be considered for serious PvP. Exactly where did you run off to? As far as Zergs go, well I can understand your dislike for it, I had my fill of FL after the world tour and the mass recruiting started.

Since you have this chip on your shoulder would it not be best to test this?

10 duels agianst 10 BTH members. Ill front 1 mil per duel for each one you win. If you lose you forfeit all. If BTH sucks as bad as you say then this should be a easy task for your claimed uber skills.

[Kai Allard]

Is Trinsic Gate (fel) the same as tram's?
If so that would be a fun place to run around in
with all the animals, npc's and monsters
to contend with also.

[ReturnOfVII]

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10 duels agianst 10 BTH members. Ill front 1 mil per duel for each one you win. If you lose you forfeit all. If BTH sucks as bad as you say then this should be a easy task for your claimed uber skills.

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does it come with a free harrower too?

[Delaro]

No, nothing to gain by ganking someone no one seems to know or remember. The offer stands regardless.

[Ivana Killalot]

Just wanted to give a shout out to BTH for giving us numerous scrolls trying to do 6-7 man despises. Whens theres not 15 BTH on they are not as good as they think. Taking spawns from BTH is like taking candy from a baby when they dont have 15+. For example, today we have 6 people in Teamspeak and 1 person at the despise raid not in TS, and Bth had 8 on. Needless to say we got a 20 swords and 20 med from the raid, and it was red killed. Incase anyone wants to play the "Not BTH prime time" card, it was dead center of their primetime. I guess the moral of my post is, dont under estimate D/VII. MAke sure you have more then 8 on when your doing spawns, because you never know when we are going to gank ya.

PS I like the new heated discussion thread, now its time for me to go afk from stratics for the next 2 months. Enjoy!

[ReturnOfVII]

your offer sounds as bogus as your free harrowers is what I'm getting at kiddo.

[Larisa]

*Tries to remain calm and unbiased as a good reporter should*

As a member of D, I was in Tokuno killing random monsters as half the shard was doing when I saw in guild chat that BTH had Despise at level 4. Me and another guildie I was with quickly recalled into fire coming in behind 2 others. Two were already down there. This was at 4:45 Central time. We quickly took the bridge...I saw 6 BTH at first, 2 more came in. We had a good bridge fight, killed the champ after healing it back up and made off with the scrolls. There were alot of deaths on both sides but D/VII came out ahead even though we were outnumbered 8 to 6. Unfortunatly, it's true...BTH cannot manage to do much unless they have 15+ members on, as with most "Zerg" guilds...it's about numbers, not ability.

[Delaro]

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*Tries to remain calm and unbiased as a good reporter should*

As a member of D, I was in Tokuno killing random monsters as half the shard was doing when I saw in guild chat that BTH had Despise at level 4. Me and another guildie I was with quickly recalled into fire coming in behind 2 others. Two were already down there. This was at 4:45 Central time. We quickly took the bridge...I saw 6 BTH at first, 2 more came in. We had a good bridge fight, killed the champ after healing it back up and made off with the scrolls. There were alot of deaths on both sides but D/VII came out ahead even though we were outnumbered 8 to 6. Unfortunatly, it's true...BTH cannot manage to do much unless they have 15+ members on, as with most "Zerg" guilds...it's about numbers, not ability.

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Well if your going to report atleast tell the truth. there were only 6 on and 5 in despise. at no point did it reach 8. I was the 6th man and I crashed as soon as I hit the bridge.

[Delaro]

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your offer sounds as bogus as your free harrowers is what I'm getting at kiddo.

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The offer stands regardless if you have the gonads to try, only one losing here is me if you can kill 10 in 10 1on1 duels. The way I see it you have nothing to lose and every thing to gain.

[Delaro]

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Just wanted to give a shout out to BTH for giving us numerous scrolls trying to do 6-7 man despises. Whens theres not 15 BTH on they are not as good as they think. Taking spawns from BTH is like taking candy from a baby when they dont have 15+. For example, today we have 6 people in Teamspeak and 1 person at the despise raid not in TS, and Bth had 8 on. Needless to say we got a 20 swords and 20 med from the raid, and it was red killed. Incase anyone wants to play the "Not BTH prime time" card, it was dead center of their primetime. I guess the moral of my post is, dont under estimate D/VII. MAke sure you have more then 8 on when your doing spawns, because you never know when we are going to gank ya.

PS I like the new heated discussion thread, now its time for me to go afk from stratics for the next 2 months. Enjoy!

[/ QUOTE ]

Well if you had paid attention you would have seen 2 blues. 2 peacer necros a third non pvp charater. But its all good, we took a -D- despise the previous day with only 5 agianst your 7. Sicne when is 4 pm prime time? Most players are on the oppisite side of the county and didnt even start logging for another 3 hours.

I would think that its paramount to have all the facts as you describe the skirmishes so you don't present a "biased" opinion based upon the side that you represent. Example: If "D" raids a spawn (It’s a bit of a stretch, and more rare then them fighting outside of the guard zone but ummm it could happen) but if they raid a spawn and they have been losing spawns all day and they happen to pull one off and get away with a spawn raid after losing 10 in a row, then that to me is NOT a successful day it’s a failure in every sense of the word and I would hope that if they are to remain a PvP guild that they would engage us at every turn and mount a greater attempt and not wait for our arrival at Yew gate to mount their attack with the help of the guards. It seems that the only excuses we hear are “You guys have more then us” which is laughable to everyone because we aren’t the ones who are allied to every guild that wants to come to Fel. add up the numbers, do the math. You take the credit if we don’t do well at a skirmish but you don’t accept the defeat when we show back up to reclaim what is ours for the taking.

[Larisa]

Next time I will remember to take screen shots http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also, if you recall in my posts, said it was a good fight and both sides suffered alot of deaths. And the excuses..Delaro....

Well if you had paid attention you would have seen 2 blues. 2 peacer necros a third non pvp charater...

WHY would you do a spawn with a non PvP Charactor? Isn't this against Pub's rules? If you can't fight, don't come...learn how to play, work your charactor...THEN come? *Seems to remember hearing those words ALOT*

No excuses...you lost...end of story. Ohhh...I loved the harrowers yesterday too, that was classic. I was too busy talking to Grav to take screenies but...have to give a *Thumbs Up* for the 40+ bagballs at the front AND back of fire....and how many reds did you have defending? You honestly think we are stupid enough to try to raid that???

So collect your scrolls...collect your gold...you know what they say, money can't buy happiness, the rich tend to die alone in the midst of all their riches....if you're happy with your pixel crack, props to you...the rest of us have better things to do http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

(Next time I'll be sure to get screenies so be sure to wear your best...blue and red stuff )

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

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No, nothing to gain by ganking someone no one seems to know or remember. The offer stands regardless.

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Funny you should say that. About 1 month ago I took a newly created char to the yew fel gate and just stood there outside the guard zone. I stood there for about 20 minutes alive the whole time and didn't see a single BTH member. All at once about 6 BTH show up and low and behold no less than 3 of them attacked me within seconds. Remember this was a brand new char that nobody knew. 2 of those 3 were Pub himself and Crazy Horse. I went through the gate got rezzed at Luna came back, got my stuff, and stood in the exact same place I had been before. You'll never guess what happened next, yep that's right I was ganked again by 2 BTH. They took nothing from my corpse the first time and I gave no count so what was the purpose the second time. Seems to me that all BTH knows how to do is gank so you might want to rephrase this response.

[Delaro]

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Next time I will remember to take screen shots http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also, if you recall in my posts, said it was a good fight and both sides suffered alot of deaths. And the excuses..Delaro....

Well if you had paid attention you would have seen 2 blues. 2 peacer necros a third non pvp charater...

WHY would you do a spawn with a non PvP Charactor? Isn't this against Pub's rules? If you can't fight, don't come...learn how to play, work your charactor...THEN come? *Seems to remember hearing those words ALOT*

No excuses...you lost...end of story. Ohhh...I loved the harrowers yesterday too, that was classic. I was too busy talking to Grav to take screenies but...have to give a *Thumbs Up* for the 40+ bagballs at the front AND back of fire....and how many reds did you have defending? You honestly think we are stupid enough to try to raid that???

So collect your scrolls...collect your gold...you know what they say, money can't buy happiness, the rich tend to die alone in the midst of all their riches....if you're happy with your pixel crack, props to you...the rest of us have better things to do http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

(Next time I'll be sure to get screenies so be sure to wear your best...blue and red stuff )

[/ QUOTE ]

Geez now your blind, do you need me to send you a pair of those Wal Mart $2 glasses? You can't fit 40 bag balls in that area. Yes there were bag balls but that is to slow down the obvious speed hackers that seem to pop up so frequently here. There is no rule agianst this as long as you have a clear path.. which you did. If you looked you would have seen 3 paths but mostly people panic and don't pay attention to the little maze. Really you need to leave this shard and look and how things are done on PvP heavy shards, what has been done here is nothing to what happens on Atlantic and Pac.

As far as the charater choices there are more than just pvp charater, specific build to do spawns faster. Every guild that spawns has them and can be spotted by the obvious of being the only blues in a Red guild, they have other uses.. flagging on Nooby mages that like dropping fields for a few murder counts or to just turn them grey.

Yes I give -D- credit for taking the spawn, but what about the other 15 or so that was dont that day? how many of those were even attempted? Personnally I see good team work in the few -D- that try, it would be nice to see more venture out of the Yew gate and try to fight.

The harrower we had 20 on, -D-, VII and PK togethor can field way more than that and if that isnt enough you could always make a temp allaince and add whatever remians of MERC and these new guids that poped up lately. You guys have the numbers just not the leaders. Ive seen 10 attackers take out 30 defenders on other shards with good team work, anything is possible with some effort. We didn't even have a grinder set up, you guys could have came in all at once and started a huge fight.. o well better try next time

[ReturnOfVII]

seems like this kid Delaro has an excuse for everything

[Delaro]

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seems like this kid Delaro has an excuse for everything

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There are always 2 sides to a story regardless if you want to here it or not.

LMAO.. Well if you came to fight then fight. Standing in the guard zone isn't the place to scream "Someone show me how to pvp!!" You knew what to expect there. You got what you deserved so you should have trained yourself long before you got there and if you expect us to obey your rules of engagement then as you found out your dead wrong. Don't come here expecting some lenience because your new to this side of the fence if you want a 1v1 then ask someone for it otherwise stop whining about how you died when its expected that you would do the same on to us.

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

The purpose of my post was to point out the contradictory statement that your guildmate made. He said there was no point in ganking someone that nobody knew or had ever heard about. So then why did multiple members of BTH gank a completely new char that nobody knew or had ever heard about? Twice.

Also if you reread my post it says I was standing outside the guard zone I had no intention of trying to guardwhack anyone. I also had no intention of trying to pvp I was just trying to satisfy my curiosity about a couple things.

You know, BTH might actually have a chance at being the best guild in UO if it's veteran members didn't have such serious attitude problems. If they actually tried to be community players on top of having the kind of numbers they have .

[Delaro]

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The purpose of my post was to point out the contradictory statement that your guildmate made. He said there was no point in ganking someone that nobody knew or had ever heard about. So then why did multiple members of BTH gank a completely new char that nobody knew or had ever heard about? Twice.

Also if you reread my post it says I was standing outside the guard zone I had no intention of trying to guardwhack anyone. I also had no intention of trying to pvp I was just trying to satisfy my curiosity about a couple things.

Well...hmmm.. YEW&gt;&gt;GATE&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that is what happens there.

What I offer is a legit Duel Guantlet, he he doesn't have the balls to take it then I will work out something to make it a challenge to all on the shard.

You know, BTH might actually have a chance at being the best guild in UO if it's veteran members didn't have such serious attitude problems. If they actually tried to be community players on top of having the kind of numbers they have .

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[imported_Chaucer of TS]

If that is what happens there why would you say "No, nothing to gain by ganking someone no one seems to know or remember."? You're contradicting yourself. You say there's nothing to gain by doing that then you say that's what happens. Please make up your mind.

What exactly did you want? There may be nothing to gain monetary but it is stimulating. It's as if you think we care about what you think of us .... news flash ... WE DON'T! .... This is about getting you excuse makers, doom and gloom players out of the guard zone. Stop blaming your own down falls on us and get out there and fight. We are not interested in becoming this "Community Player" that you want us to be. We are the greatest guild in U.O. Just as every guild in U.O. believes they are we believe the same of BTH. We only want you to come away from the guard zone so we can kill you what's so difficult to understand about that?!

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

You really don't seem to have a single clue about what I've been trying to say even though I've repeated it about 3 times.

[Z ink]

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You really don't seem to have a single clue about what I've been trying to say even though I've repeated it about 3 times.

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Your trying to say that BTH had to gank your 'newly' created character.

And they are telling you they don't care how many people want to get in on your death, they just want to see you die.

No one cares if your character cannot fight back, they just want the murder count. I think it's funny you think you have some kind of arguement just because 3 people ganked your newbie character.

Newsflash if your the only person at the gate, they will probably kill you =&lt;

[Delaro]

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You really don't seem to have a single clue about what I've been trying to say even though I've repeated it about 3 times.

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Your trying to say that BTH had to gank your 'newly' created character.

And they are telling you they don't care how many people want to get in on your death, they just want to see you die.

No one cares if your character cannot fight back, they just want the murder count. I think it's funny you think you have some kind of arguement just because 3 people ganked your newbie character.

Newsflash if your the only person at the gate, they will probably kill you =&lt;

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Dont take Newbie charaters to Fel.. If you die don't complain, this is why Fel is setup the way it is. If your not prepaired to fight don't bother visiting.

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

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You really don't seem to have a single clue about what I've been trying to say even though I've repeated it about 3 times.

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Your trying to say that BTH had to gank your 'newly' created character.

And they are telling you they don't care how many people want to get in on your death, they just want to see you die.

No one cares if your character cannot fight back, they just want the murder count. I think it's funny you think you have some kind of arguement just because 3 people ganked your newbie character.

Newsflash if your the only person at the gate, they will probably kill you =&lt;

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OMG. I had an underlying reason for telling this story about taking a newb to fel and being ganked by BTH. I really don't give a damn whether I was killed or not, I was trying to make a point about Delaro making contradictory statements. I swear some people are completely thickheaded.

[ReturnOfVII]

No matter how many times you try to explain they'll never totally understand and come up with same lame excuse. Just think of the mentality your dealing with. Every so called "come back" post looks more like contradicting excuses. Should of added reading comprehention 101 to the PVP 1v1 lessons on sundays I guess. But I'm limited on time. Guess they'll just have to learn the hardway.

You point was understood and your just trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. One persons thoughts at times does not speak for the whole. It's as if your trying to catch us in some kinda "Gotha" game. He may not find it as enjoyable to rez. kill and kill newbies but a lot of us it does warms our hearts. So even though this is election season you forget that we are not running for election. So if in your mind that you believe you have one up on us, you don't. Now just get off the high horse and come kill us. Now I cannot possibly dumb it down any further for you then that. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[ReturnOfVII]

Your grammar is as poor as your PVP skills.

Is that the best you've got? You were beaten off this shard!! So now your bitter. Get your guild together and come fight us otherwise you have absolutely no reason to even comment on this shard.

[ReturnOfVII]

I was beaten off this shard? where does this come from? are you so hooked on phonics you have to make things up now? oh wait but that's BTH way of life now making it up as you go like your lil adventures to LS which was a failure. I've never LEFT the shard nor have I been beaten exspecially by some BTH wanna be pvper. My main PVP char is still here, Origin is my home so ya I have every right to comment here. So cheer up emo kid, I'll remind you soon enuff of who I am and what I'm about. Unfortunatly for you, you'll be the last to know as I'm standing over your corpse.

[Ivana Killalot]

ReturnVII...who were you when you were BTH. I can place the attitude but cant place who you are exactly.

[ReturnOfVII]

break it down daddy-o Return of "VII" as in the red who joined "D" this morning in despise

Another direct question and yet he continues to avoid the question, if i didn't any better I'd swear you were ashamed of who you are.

[ReturnOfVII]

Omg how much more plain and simple could it be my name is VII not the guild but the char. Are you really this hooked on phonics. If anyone should be ashamed is BTH gm for having such morons in their guild.

[Gravis Ruin]

The Truth about the Dynasty vs. BTH war.

Has anyone wondered why a guild would surrender when they are 200 kills ahead of
their opponent after not even two days of war?

Let me know if anyone can come up with a reason for that, I would love to hear
it.

The truth of the matter is that D did this war to embarrass BTH, and as everyone
thought, that was completely impossible. However, D had a back up plan.

They knew it was very unlikely they could possibly come up with more kills then
us but they gave it a try. When they saw the rapid decline in anywhere near an
even amount of kills, they put plan b in effect.

Basically one of the BTH war lords sympathetic to some members of D decided to
send peace declaration in order for D to have a graceful exit out of the war,
without having to surrender. How is this so different then surrendering to BTH
the right way? That's beyond me. Pretending anything else has happened is
ignorant.

Reality is BTH resent a war declaration immediately, just as there has been a
BTH war declaration sitting on every major guild on Origins diplomacy option,
and has been for a long time. If anyone seriously wants to PwN bth!!!, prove
it, accept war.

OR!!,play pretend, lets pretend a guild was so scared of D they surrendered at
200 kills in the lead after having the most fun on UO in two years, and
responded by immediately resending a war declaration. That sounds like something
someone soundly defeated would do. Possibly my theory makes a little more sense.

Either way it does not really matter, what does matter is no one will really accept
a war declaration with BTH, and why should you? 200 kills in two days, by the end of
the weekend I am sure it would have been about 1000 kills in a weeks time, and THAT'S
embarrassing to let happen.

Balls in your court, war declaration are on everyone on the servers guild
diplomacy option.

Thanks,

Grav Hurr / Gravis Ruin

[Larisa]

LOL nice try Grav...we know you used a D char to get kill points...you can't do anything without cheating.....funny how said D member is now BTH? LOL and now you want to try again? Ohhh someone peaced on accident? Larisa told Beast to end it? PLEASE! I got the ICQ's if you wanna see them......this isn't the place to post that....but we all know the truth....and tell Pub to stay out of D's TS please, I really didn't want to hear his whiny voice again.

[DignityFarseer]

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The Truth about the Dynasty vs. BTH war.

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You mean to tell me in the last few weeks you have learned how to tell the truth... I never got a stright answer out of your sorry ass ever... it was like this "nice to your face and stab you in the [censored] back afterwards".. What kind of man are you.. you supposed to have a family what does this show them? nothing good that I can see.

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Has anyone wondered why a guild would surrender when they are 200 kills ahead of
their opponent after not even two days of war?

Let me know if anyone can come up with a reason for that, I would love to hear
it.

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Yeah I wonderd that, and considering you were cheating to get kills was kind of stupid on your part.. however, I wouldn't put it past Pub pumpkin head to just drop it cause he was tired of getting killed and not having control over the server all hours of the day because he didn't want to loose points. Then turn around a blame it on someone else.

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The truth of the matter is that D did this war to embarrass BTH, and as everyone
thought, that was completely impossible. However, D had a back up plan.

They knew it was very unlikely they could possibly come up with more kills then
us but they gave it a try. When they saw the rapid decline in anywhere near an
even amount of kills, they put plan b in effect.

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Well while your at it grav could you please tell me the winning number to the lotto for Firday night.. Give me a [censored] break.... you are making [censored] up off the top of your head.

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Basically one of the BTH war lords sympathetic to some members of D decided to
send peace declaration in order for D to have a graceful exit out of the war,
without having to surrender. How is this so different then surrendering to BTH
the right way? That's beyond me. Pretending anything else has happened is
ignorant.

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And as fars as someone be sympathtic to D.. thats a line of bull. If Beast dropped it he dropped it cause he wanted to and probably said [censored] it i'm tired of this. So don't start casting blame on someone else.. If you can't keep control over your guild pub then maybe you should just kick your members, that kind of attitude spreads remember!!!! I suppose grav your a little upset at loosing your status in the guild as well....

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Reality is BTH resent a war declaration immediately, just as there has been a
BTH war declaration sitting on every major guild on Origins diplomacy option,
and has been for a long time. If anyone seriously wants to PwN bth!!!, prove
it, accept war.

OR!!,play pretend, lets pretend a guild was so scared of D they surrendered at
200 kills in the lead after having the most fun on UO in two years, and
responded by immediately resending a war declaration. That sounds like something
someone soundly defeated would do. Possibly my theory makes a little more sense.

Either way it does not really matter, what does matter is no one will really accept
a war declaration with BTH, and why should you? 200 kills in two days, by the end of
the weekend I am sure it would have been about 1000 kills in a weeks time, and THAT'S
embarrassing to let happen.

Balls in your court, war declaration are on everyone on the servers guild
diplomacy option.

Thanks,

Grav Hurr / Gravis Ruin

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Well I do truley wish we had a way to determine how many times you repeatly killed Aquis over and over and over again.. maybe then your so called 200 kills lead might just be a few...

[Delaro]

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LOL nice try Grav...we know you used a D char to get kill points...you can't do anything without cheating.....funny how said D member is now BTH? LOL and now you want to try again? Ohhh someone peaced on accident? Larisa told Beast to end it? PLEASE! I got the ICQ's if you wanna see them......this isn't the place to post that....but we all know the truth....and tell Pub to stay out of D's TS please, I really didn't want to hear his whiny voice again.

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Larisa you are slipping? Half of that made no sense and the other half is opposite of your supposed Neutral state. How can you give a report on a issue when your anti-BTH?

She is a reporter yes. She is also a member of the forum with her own opinions and views. She may freely express such views, just as much as all of you can. Her news reporters, ya know, the things posted with [News] in the subject line are what there must be no biasm in.

With that said, enough of trying to call out Larisa on this. As I told you in the PM, Please keep all topics about any Staff Member's duties and responsabilities in the form of Private Message or E-Mail - uoforumadmin@stratics.com

Plus, this is the smack thread, I don't see how she could be reporting news in here. She has to make new threads and fill out news forms when making new [News].

[_Stasis_]

I see everyone likes to blame Aqias for the kills being so high on the BTH side. Fine lets pretend it wasn't at 140 before Aqias. Now why wouldn't you guys want the kills reset at 0 for a new war? Because there are bth war declarations on every stone? Wouldnt we be doing you a favor if you were doing so well? So prove it and lets start over, surely bth doesnt have an army of covert spies for kills?

[Larisa]

Maybe it would help if you re-read it. I am not just anti-BTH delaro hun...I am anti cheating.....anyone anywhere who cheats is just a loser at life...it's like cheating in solitare......it's pathetic and pointless.

This is a game.....no winning, no losing...just a game to play and have fun....and if you feel the need to cheat in on online game with ppl you don't even know, that's pretty bad.

In this case..unfortunatly, the context is between two guilds that I am associated with. It is the guild as a whole...not BTH, lets not put a name to it because this exact thing can and has happened everywhere, in game and in real life. We played a game....one of the opponants cheated...plain and simple.

These two opponants are planning on playing the game again...hopefully without the cheating. Let's say...you and a friend are playing b-ball.....you turn your back and he cheats...scores 30 points by flying up to the basket without you knowing.....and claims victory...or playing poker...and you have cards up your sleeve....is that victory? NO it's not....BTH LOST because they cheated...hopefully when we accept this war invitation they can honor it this time and play the right way.

[Delaro]

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Maybe it would help if you re-read it. I am not just anti-BTH delaro hun...I am anti cheating.....anyone anywhere who cheats is just a loser at life...it's like cheating in solitare......it's pathetic and pointless.

This is a game.....no winning, no losing...just a game to play and have fun....and if you feel the need to cheat in on online game with ppl you don't even know, that's pretty bad.

In this case..unfortunatly, the context is between two guilds that I am associated with. It is the guild as a whole...not BTH, lets not put a name to it because this exact thing can and has happened everywhere, in game and in real life. We played a game....one of the opponants cheated...plain and simple.

These two opponants are planning on playing the game again...hopefully without the cheating. Let's say...you and a friend are playing b-ball.....you turn your back and he cheats...scores 30 points by flying up to the basket without you knowing.....and claims victory...or playing poker...and you have cards up your sleeve....is that victory? NO it's not....BTH LOST because they cheated...hopefully when we accept this war invitation they can honor it this time and play the right way.

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You are a reporter which means you need to be UnBias, how can you do that if you are ANTI anything? You stance in this should not be from either side. All your claims have no backing and are just pure slander . Really Larisa do your job and back either out of ~D~ or do not report.

[Larisa]

I am not making an offical report here, I am commenting and writing my opinions just like you and everyone else. When I post an offical news report, yes I am unbiased...when I am writing my personal opionions and views then no, I don't have to be...just like you and everyone else.

[Ivana Killalot]

These are the facts. (mind you all im on pacific time zone, ill still explain the events that took place today in BTH's common time zone)

At 12:30 pm EST today we had finished our 3rd Despise in a row with decent size fights at the spawn and at yew gate. Yes D was down 45 kills after we had successfully defended Despise for hours prior. (the first 36 hours of the war D never lost a lead in Kills) Half of our Teamspeak had to log because of different time zones. We had roughly 10-11 people logging in and out through out the rest of the day, and 4 of those poeople were doing a peerless. When i logged out at 12:45 we only had 5 people at yew gate fighting 10 bth. I came back in-game around 4pm est and BTH had been about 120 kills higher. Still we only had about 6 people pvping at the gate. When i asked one of our vet members if we had alot of people in-game dieing he said "no, theres only been about 5 of us on at once fitghing from the house" . Then to seal the deal, about 40 minutes later BTH was up 190 kills.

80 kills in 3.5 hours of pvp is unbelievable but slightly possible.....70 more kills in 40 minutes, thats just plain out cheating. Then so convinently Aquis is BTH all of the sudden. I was a member and a leader of BTH for over 6 years and i was a part of every tactic used by Pub. When in Factions on Great lakes we basically ran the show but when a guild actually competed with us on faction kill points pub had to make sure someone had a character in an opposite faction so BTH would never lose. This time BTH got caught plain and simple.

We will accept your war again. Only this time i think it should be under two different small terms. Grav if you want to discuss the terms with me via icq thats fine we can. I have permission to speak for MAj on all matters. After all, you surrendered. Regardless if it was because of some newbie ephor or not. You know the number...let me know.

[ReturnOfVII]

Wow I expected lame excuses coming from Pub but Grav come on these kids are rubbing off on you. I kept an eye on this war since start watched the numbers bounce back and forth between 100 kills to either side and 200 kills isn't much of a lead in the first place exspecially not enuff for anyone to call it quits from either side. It's funny how once this person in TS was exposed the war was called off by BTH if you'ld like a screen shot I can provide. That right there just shows me one thing, BTH fails once more. But I guess it hurts you more that it happened on Origin where you claim to be all high and mighty rather then saying you went to another shard and owned when no one even heard of you on that shard ( refering to LS ) and coming back here claiming a false victory thinking no one on Origin would know the difference let alone even care. Seriously you guys didn't prove anything but the fact that you can't handle PVPing without the numbers, and you did it in plain site for the whole shard to see. No one thinks of you as a pvp guild, your considered more of a griefing zerg guild and from the looks of it a very unstable one at that.

[NutCracker]

only comments i have on the war is it was fun and lets do it again. i have no idea why its been ended and i am pretty upset about it. im not even gonna get into the who sucks argument i just want the war back on. the trash talking is pointless to me. i dont care about the kill points or who was planting who in what guild or anything i just want more action. just accept the new challenge and go again pls asap k thx

[imported_Shot]

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*Tries to remain calm and unbiased as a good reporter should*

Unfortunatly, it's true...BTH cannot manage to do much unless they have 15+ members on, as with most "Zerg" guilds...it's about numbers, not ability.

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I think it's really lame of you and Ivana to post like this considering, but whatever.

Go on believing this little dream of yours and be sure to come on down to Despise often in the afternoons and evenings. We love it when you all try, that insurance money is going to get me an orny soon!

[imported_Shot]

[quote
About 1 month ago I took a newly created char to the yew fel gate and just stood there outside the guard zone. I stood there for about 20 minutes alive the whole time and didn't see a single BTH member. All at once about 6 BTH show up and low and behold no less than 3 of them attacked me within seconds. Remember this was a brand new char that nobody knew. ....... so what was the purpose the second time. Seems to me that all BTH knows how to do is gank so you might want to rephrase this response.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude I dunno what PvP is like where YOU come from, but here if you are blue and not in a guard zone you better be prepared to defend yourself! It's what we DO bro!!!

*tosses you a nickel* go buy a clue k?

[Ivana Killalot]

Shot, all i did was lay out the facts. Theres always two sides to every story. BTH has never been the Beacon of truth, so to speak.

PS. If you dont have an enough gold to buy an orny by now....somethings not right with the BTH cash cow.

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

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[quote
About 1 month ago I took a newly created char to the yew fel gate and just stood there outside the guard zone. I stood there for about 20 minutes alive the whole time and didn't see a single BTH member. All at once about 6 BTH show up and low and behold no less than 3 of them attacked me within seconds. Remember this was a brand new char that nobody knew. ....... so what was the purpose the second time. Seems to me that all BTH knows how to do is gank so you might want to rephrase this response.

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Dude I dunno what PvP is like where YOU come from, but here if you are blue and not in a guard zone you better be prepared to defend yourself! It's what we DO bro!!!

*tosses you a nickel* go buy a clue k?

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*tosses nickel back* how about you go buy one. And in the process read the rest of my posts and realize that the whole point of that post had nothing to do with whether I died or not it was to point out the discrepencies of a previous post made by someone else.

[imported_Shot]

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Shot, all i did was lay out the facts. Theres always two sides to every story. BTH has never been the Beacon of truth, so to speak.

PS. If you dont have an enough gold to buy an orny by now....somethings not right with the BTH cash cow.

[/ QUOTE ]

The 'facts' as you know them seem very suspiciously like opinion and fantasy... sorry, but you are rarely on when there are more than 5 BTH that I've ever noticed. Perhaps this is because of your schedule and situation, perhaps it is your choice, whatever. The fact is that during prime time hours and by that I mean 4pm to midnight Pacific, you just aren't here on a regular basis.

And when you are on, it sure seems to me that as soon as BTH beats your guys down, that's it for you it's off to trammie land to pick up some minors or beat up on a boss!

As for the orny, it's the last in a long list of already purchased high price items and soon I will have it, and then I start buying stuff for deco I guess.

[ikyownsu]

First off I'm new to bth from catskills and I love it here. Second, What did you expect would happen standing in yew with pks around on a noob char? We suicide on developed characters that hide in the guards too much. Do you think new characters should be treated differently?

On the war with d. I loved it and I want it back. I found myself ignoring blues that would try and gank me just to kill the orange players first lol. I'm red, and so is most of bth making us freely attackable all the time. Why would we want to end a war that removed a butt load of freely attackable players for us? If you were in our vent as people found out the war was over you would know we didn't want it to end. The only thing that upset me about the war was that since my only blue char a necro spawner went red killing a d alliance member at a spawn the day before the war started i missed out on raiding the trammy lands.

[imported_Shot]

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*tosses nickel back* how about you go buy one. And in the process read the rest of my posts and realize that the whole point of that post had nothing to do with whether I died or not it was to point out the discrepencies of a previous post made by someone else.

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YEah, I understand your point, once you'd explained it but MY point is that YOU are the only one who knew what you were trying to say judging by all the following replies, so *tosses the nickel at ya* You still need that clue.

[ReturnOfVII]

This war that BTH failed to complete must of really touched a sore spot, look at all the newbie posters come out of the woodwork just to come on and attempt to make a wise crack remark trying to save face of their failure of a guild. Get a grip kiddies YOU FAILED ! end of story. Even last mondaynight during BTH's "Prime Time" ( basically when school lets out and the lil yellow bus drops them off ) you failed in Despise being held off by Dynasty at the bridge. So you can through this no one can spawn during prime time factor out the window, it was done you lost. So again I say CHEER UP EMO KIDS!!! you no longer can claim Origin as BTH's playground, this war proved it. Cry all you want then cry some more because "BTH failed at life" as Pubby would say. Maybe instead of trying to buy that orny you might invest in some PVP lessons which are still available on sunday mornings.

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

LOL, the only people who didn't seem to understand what I was trying to say were BTH members. Coincidence? I don't think so.

[Delaro]

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This war that BTH failed to complete must of really touched a sore spot, look at all the newbie posters come out of the woodwork just to come on and attempt to make a wise crack remark trying to save face of their failure of a guild. Get a grip kiddies YOU FAILED ! end of story. Even last mondaynight during BTH's "Prime Time" ( basically when school lets out and the lil yellow bus drops them off ) you failed in Despise being held off by Dynasty at the bridge. So you can through this no one can spawn during prime time factor out the window, it was done you lost. So again I say CHEER UP EMO KIDS!!! you no longer can claim Origin as BTH's playground, this war proved it. Cry all you want then cry some more because "BTH failed at life" as Pubby would say. Maybe instead of trying to buy that orny you might invest in some PVP lessons which are still available on sunday mornings.

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...............................
Get a grip kiddies YOU FAILED ! end of story. Even last mondaynight during BTH's "Prime Time" ( basically when school lets out and the lil yellow bus drops them off ) you failed in Despise being held off by Dynasty at the bridge
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Well for one thing hardly anyone was on, but you can add it to the list of 5-1000 failed/completed raids.. win some lose some. If you want to hag on 1 win then you haven’t been here near long enough. As far as the kiddie remarks well most of the guild are around 30 as opposed to your 15 age attitude. Grow up or shut up Boy.

As far as you PvP lessons, from what I have seen I am amazed you are a Red. I mean how in the world did you find enough people in Yew that you could kill with a 17 point hit every 3 seconds. The only 3 times I have seen you 2 of them have been from the view of your Mounts flying rear. Grav nearly killed you in 2 spells and I let you hit me for more than 30 seconds and you barely did 42 points of damage. That little archer temp might have been gimp when everyone played a Archer but it plan sucks now. Time to move on with the times and find yourself a new Gimp template, your skills are as I predicted in the beginning... FAR...FAR.. behind your Attitude. You make a nice addition to ~D~.. more GM runners and consistent insurance donors.

WAY TO GO BOY YOU MADE MY DAY.

[ReturnOfVII]

Yet another EXCUSE "hardly no one was on " pfft w/e it was your so called Prime time. And you said it right Grav nearly killed me but yet again FAILED too which seems to be the thing BTH nothing but failures. Maybe you need more then 3 how about 5. Keep trying your not impressing anyone. Cry more EMO KID.

[Delaro]

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Yet another EXCUSE "hardly no one was on " pfft w/e it was your so called Prime time. And you said it right Grav nearly killed me but yet again FAILED too which seems to be the thing BTH nothing but failures. Maybe you need more then 3 how about 5. Keep trying your not impressing anyone. Cry more EMO KID.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly where do you see crying little boy? Your posts are like talking to my 8 year old, endless spouting of pointless information. Since when is 4 pm prime time? 75% of us don’t get out of work for 1-2 more hours after that unlike you whom seem to get of the Short bus much earlier. Really did your Ritalin run out? Is you ADHD bothering you so bad you need to keep in this continuous I hate BTH loop. If you were one of the top 20 player BTH had when you left then they are 10X better off than then.

[ReturnOfVII]

Your a funny lil emo kid. Where do you see anything saying the spawn was at 4pm? is that the excuse your guildmates came up with? it was more like 6-7pm pac time, get your facts straight before you attempt to smack talk. Get over your failures as a guild learn how to PVP then come talk to me until then your just a waste of pixtel space. With that said I'm done with you, lessons over.


If anyone in BTH has any common sense to represent them on these forums please send them because this kid isn't cutting it.

[imported_Shot]

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Your a funny lil emo kid. Where do you see anything saying the spawn was at 4pm? is that the excuse your guildmates came up with? it was more like 6-7pm pac time, get your facts straight before you attempt to smack talk. Get over your failures as a guild learn how to PVP then come talk to me until then your just a waste of pixtel space. With that said I'm done with you, lessons over.


If anyone in BTH has any common sense to represent them on these forums please send them because this kid isn't cutting it.

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Your a real king of the posts aren't you? ONly time I ever see you on the field is when you cower ina Yew house though. Guess you can't be good at everything huh?

I've yet to see him anywhere. It's laughable to think that this "kid" matters and is going to change the face of Origin and BTH. I also think you over value yourself. You really need to get off this anger kick, it just makes you look like a bitter 12yr. old kid who daddy never hugged him. Lets just tone it down a Lil bit ok, I doubt you will but I wanted to at least give it a try before you have a melt down.

[Delaro]

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Your a funny lil emo kid. Where do you see anything saying the spawn was at 4pm? is that the excuse your guildmates came up with? it was more like 6-7pm pac time, get your facts straight before you attempt to smack talk. Get over your failures as a guild learn how to PVP then come talk to me until then your just a waste of pixtel space. With that said I'm done with you, lessons over.


If anyone in BTH has any common sense to represent them on these forums please send them because this kid isn't cutting it.

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Arent you just the little smack talking little whoe to the end. Regardless the time of the spawn it means nothing. And whom are you to talk trash about PVP lessons? Each time you get the old one two punch you stick your tail between your legs, **** all over it and run away to hide. Don't think I didnt see you earlier running for dear life once agian. Geez don't you even have the Balls to stand and fight?

I've got more respect for POCO than a dozen of you. Atleast he can dish out a good deal of damage before he runs and hides. If BTH is such a failure why then do the little kiddies you joined decide to Ally? Becuase they couldn't handle it solo and even as a allaince they still can barely deal with it.

Hey?? do you hear that??? Its your momma a callen its time to change your pamper and eat din din.. Better run off now before you anger one of the old BTH farts sitting on the porch tossing rocks at your head.

[ReturnOfVII]

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Your a real king of the posts aren't you? ONly time I ever see you on the field is when you cower ina Yew house though. Guess you can't be good at everything huh?

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News flash kiddie I'm not even accessed to a Yew house, another failed attempt by BTH member and for the other two wannabe's your post doesn't even deserve anymore attention you've failed no need to keep crying.

[imported_Shot]

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News flash kiddie I'm not even accessed to a Yew house, another failed attempt by BTH member and for the other two wannabe's your post doesn't even deserve anymore attention you've failed no need to keep crying.

[/ QUOTE ]

All that means is you aren't who I thought you are, and therefore you are nobody and are basically going on mute as far as I'm concerned.

Come play the game if you can tear yourself away from the boards long enough to let us know who you are. ;P

[ReturnOfVII]

A no body who thinks I'm a no body ya ok that makes alot of sense w/e. You guys seriously need to think of better comebacks post then this I'm seriously getting bored. Atleast try to fake it like you do your PVP skills.

[ReturnOfVII]

And yet again last night Despise battles proves another night of BTH failure, exspecially for Pub no matter how many combos he failed at taking me down. Not just one but four spawns completed. And with my brilliant tactics and cunning skill and not to mention my good looks along with my awesome guildmates we made another night for BTH a living hell. Now kiddies I expect to hear your many excuses of course but the screen shots will speak for themselves so keep your eye out on the PVP screenshot thread which I'll post'em as soon as I upload them all, yes there is quite a few.

[DimeBagDarrel]

Ok. Hello All Im New To This. Lets Just Make This Short. As A Long Term Member Of BTH. One Of BTH's Top Pvpers(Elite). Theres Just A Few Things I Gotta Set Stright Here For D Seven What Ever Guild That Think They Are PvP Godz. Look Heres The Bottum Line For Any Of You On Here. You Can Smack Talk, Cry, Moan, What Ever It Is That Makes You Mr.Tough Guy On Stratics Boards. You Can Post Pictures Of What you Think Is A Victory Against BTH - No Im Not Talking About You Running Up To A Corpse Of A Dead Bth That Had Died By A Third Level Spawn &amp; Take A Picture With You Standing Next To It, Then Post On The Boards About How Your Whole Guild Annialated BTH With The Picture You Took. Simply I Have A Solution To All Your Posts About How You Own BTH, Just To Prove This All And Shut All Of You Newbs Up Is To Have A Fight Make It a Even Team What Ever It Is You Want Just Name It, Time Place Teams What Ever. This Will Simply Prove The Truth About All 3-4-5-16 18 dont matter how many guilds You Guys Allie. This Will Not Result In A D, VII Victory. This Will Prove The Smack Talk. To All Whos Died To Me Thanks For The Fun :O Oh Yea Ivana Dude Get Real Reemember About A Month Ago Bum NailBomb &amp; Me Killed All Of You In A 3vs18 Despise Raid? Yea That Was A Adrenaline Rush.

[ReturnOfVII]

*breaks out the ol'secret cracker jack decoder ring to attempt to translate this poor kids grammar*

The replies from you kids are getting worse exspecially grammar wise. Even though the boards have been peaceful for a few days I was starting to wonder.
Heres the thing DumbBagDarrel and your other brother Darrel, I can't speak for members of D or VII but as far as myself I'll come fight when I want how I want on my terms not yours or anyone elses. Funny as I look through the pics posted on the PVP pic thread I notice alot of BTH corpses but I'm begining to wonder if BTH knows how to take screen shots let alone read, if your parents allow it get ya a an account to upload screenshots and hope they have spell check too.
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You Can Post Pictures Of What you Think Is A Victory Against BTH

[/ QUOTE ] I think the pic's are pretty clear on what went down. Making up excuses 3 days later won't save face. And alil tip capitalizing every word doesn't make your post that appealing to read, feel honored I even replied.

[plst]

Can anyone please explain how the BTH guild is consistantly able to cast through double walls on the 2nd and 3rd floors of a house? I have tried to duplicate the effort, but am not able to find a square where it can be done. If you have windows on the outer wall, do they not count as part of the outer wall? Would that mean you'd have to have a triple wall where the windows are in order to keep casts out and have a safe area inside the house? Is this a bug or exploit that will be fixed in the future?

[DimeBagDarrel]

Well Grammer Doesnt Matter In This Conversation At All, I Just Simply Exsplained Exactly How This Whole Matter Works, Plainly Like Ive Said Before Bottom Line Is You Cannot Beat BTH U Crie About Gank Pls, Go To Any Other Shard On UltimaIOnline You Will Be Ganked So I Think Thats Out The Way, And Another Thing Is You Dont Come To Fel Ive Never Heard Of You Ive Never Seen You Not Ever, Im Telling You We Can Simply Solve this Whole Problem Show Everyone Here Whos The BiggerMan/Winners. Its Easy You Go Up To The Blue Oval Thing Its Called a Moongate, Click Fel, Oh Wait First You Gotta Say This, I Wish To Renounce My Young Player Status, Then You Click Fel Click Yew You Will Be Standing In A Circle With Rocks Surounding It Simply Wal On Out Of There Atleast Try To Fight Cause We All Know Not Any Of You Guys Can Beat BTH We've Been To Almost All Shards Running Over Any Guild that Was In The Way. As Far As Me Being Late On The Replies, Im Just Replying To All this Comedy Posts That D You And Seven Has Left On How You Owned Us Or How You Owned BTH In Despise At 4:50a.m. When All Of BTH Is Sleeping For The Next Morning For Work. Were Sorry We Cant Change Our Schedules To Be Up At 3am Just To Get A Spawn In. Actually Im Wanting To Know How You Guys Set your Schedules To Be Up At That Time? No Bingy Im Not Talking About You We All Know You Dont Have A Job Cant Afford To Take Care Of Your Family.

[ReturnOfVII]

I'm really trying my best to translate your illiterate posting.

You don't make enuff sense to explain anything, your just another wanna be. I understand this is a role playing game but trying to role play a pvper your not even good at faking it. I don't see any problem to be solved, BTH claimed that we couldn't spawn at prime time we did you failed at an attempted raid in prime time so enuff said there you wanted war we did you failed again. How many chances do you feel you deserve. If anyone needs to prove anything it is BTH but honestly no one really cares like I said your not thought of as a pvp spawn guild by anyone but yourselves, you don't have the respect of anyone but by yourselves. I play on 4 shards I asked if anyones heard of BTH they say no if they came it was short lived, my main shard before Origin is LS yet again hardly anyone heard of BTH and the ones who did lol@BTH's false claims to have done anything on LS because you failed. So you coming here telling me "How It Is" means nothing to me or anyone else. Put more effort in your school work and learn basic grammar before you attempt to explain how life is in UO to me ok kiddie, class dismissed you failed yet again no soup for you.

So when exactly when will you be coming to Origin/ Fel.? and if you have please tell us when, because im sure with all your boasts and all that you say you've killed, maimed and destroyed that someone from BTH would have remember you. As it is now no one has yet to see you on the field all that we have seen you do is stand over someones body whom you didn't kill and take a screen shot of it. I think what it is, is you go from shard to shard and post on every board to make yourself sound like this "Great PvPer" when actually you probably don't even have an account and all this attention that your getting is just fueling your fear and anxiety toward logging on. The truth is you’re a joke kid and everyone knows it. You sound like this other loser named Anthrax also known as the "Monkey with no-thumbs." if I didn’t know any better I’d swear you were him.

[ReturnOfVII]

I give up on you morons apparently after showing the screen shots to back my words which no one in BTH is able to do, nothing is good enuff. Why do I even bother wasting time explaining myself to illiterate kids, it easy for you to come on the boards as I do and claim to be this and claim to be that but I was able to provide proof on the PVP pic thread where you don't seem to be able to. So I've done what I've set out to do as far as BTH goes which was provide the proof of your failures, END OF STORY.

Now that I've done that and seen that your not able to prove otherwise. No point on wasting anymore time then I have with you idiots so come post your last words or what ever, the proof is there for everyone to see that you've failed. Now I have better things to do have a nice day.

See kid for us to post pics of whom we killed is a waste of time. Do you actually think we don't kill anyone? Your delusional everyone knows the impact that we have upon Origin/Fel. everyone knows what is going to happen when we face them on the field (hopefully outside of towns and guard zones). So what would be the point of posting some pic of someone I or my guild has killed? Your just in denial of who is in control of Origin/Fel. I personally think its great that you can try to muster an alliance or try to boost the moral of those who refuse to come here, maybe they'll will actually believe that we pose no threat to anyone and will resume a normal sleeping schedule or try to work spawn or perhaps they will even do a harrower at a normal time. Maybe you can convince everyone on the shard that BTH is about to fall apart at any moment, but the real truth is no one believes you even those who hate us the most and the proof is in their unwillingness to step through that gate that takes them to Fel. because regardless of what you say they know your just another bittered angry person because your not within our ranks and your only trying to use them to become your cannon fodder while you hide out on another shard and claim some hollow victory that only you know about to make yourself feel good.

[ReturnOfVII]

Ok listen since you have lack of comprehending what you read I provided the screen shots, the only ones on Origin that feels BTH is anything but a zerg griefing guild is members of BTH. You claim to run fel which was proven by our screen shots that you don't. I did go to fel I've always been in fel I'm am a red char I'm sorry if you missed out seeing me, Pub, Slow Poke, Darla and about 8 other BTH attempted to raid several of our spawns last thur night at prime time in despise they seen me there the screen shots prove it and we also completed a harrower this was at prime time. My whole intensions was to show everyone that BTH can claim to be what ever they want but I proved that your nothing but failures. So the only one here that is in denial is BTH. You have yet to prove otherwise. Posting about how you think you rule anything isn't proof enuff. You don't control anything on Origin nor in Fel you can't even control your guild. So again now that I've done what I've set out to do I've moved on to more important challanging things. Accepting your failure will be your first step to recovery if you can't then I don't know what else to tell ya the chance was there BTH failed so I feel theres no more time to waste with you noobs, your not worth the time, sorry. Get over it this is just a game that your not as good as you think you are, I know alot of this shard will agree but don't feel your worth even trying to explain it to. So go on claiming that your this ELITE pvp guild on Origin but until it's proven your words don't mean squat. Now this is my last reply to this thread so get your last words in claim to be what ever you want but it would help if you atleast prove it.

That by far is the funniest piece of uneducated trash that you've written thus far.........Bravo....Bravo. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

&lt;SMACK&gt; haah caught cha,... translated into common english this means I am to lazy or to stupid to figure out how to post pic's on forums,... &lt;SMACK&gt; All i know how to do is sit in a lil ball above yew gate Fell and pull up a a kal vas flam just like my boss Pub says to do, so I can make him richer!!!&lt;SMACK&gt; lmao OWNED!!

[Delaro]

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&lt;SMACK&gt; haah caught cha,... translated into common english this means I am to lazy or to stupid to figure out how to post pic's on forums,... &lt;SMACK&gt; All i know how to do is sit in a lil ball above yew gate Fell and pull up a a kal vas flam just like my boss Pub says to do, so I can make him richer!!!&lt;SMACK&gt; lmao OWNED!!

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Maybe if all those scared little nooby blues would go and do something outside of Guards zones then you would not see a glob of reds standing bored out of their minds. As far as the pics goes, nobody in BTH really cares about proving anything to you or anyone else. The proof is in the activity of the shard which is low on the PvP side. Its a great if you like killing swoops or soemthing that can't fight back.

3 days not a single spawn attempt..yawwnn...

[DimeBagDarrel]

Lol that says it all right there! im tired of trying to exsplain to them that they cannot beat us not ever no matter how many guilds you allie. Like Pub said before theres a open War invitation to every guild on the server if u got the fight in you bring it. It is kinda boring sitting around yew gate waiting for you bluebies to leave yew gate just so one of us can have some fun.

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Maybe if all those scared little nooby blues would go and do something outside of Guards zones then you would not see a glob of reds standing bored out of their minds. As far as the pics goes, nobody in BTH really cares about proving anything to you or anyone else. The proof is in the activity of the shard which is low on the PvP side. Its a great if you like killing swoops or soemthing that can't fight back.

3 days not a single spawn attempt..yawwnn...

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what a waste of time,.. but anyhow,... it doesn't surprise me,.... thats what BTH
is all about,... they all say the same thing, I DON"T CARE,.. but yet you BTH guys love to think your better than everyone when you AREN"T. You love to grief everyone on the forums for the fun of it and complain about, how bad the Origin shard is,...&lt;SMACK&gt; I got news for you I am proud of the Origin shard,.. we are the first to get every publish,...now that is fun,... and I am sooo tired of reading about how BTH is so great ,.. because the simple fact of it is BTH is just another zerg guild that has to have numbers to survive,...there are 4 to 6 people on the entire guild roster that can pvp 1 v 1. thats a JOKE! &lt;SMACK&gt; OWNED

[Delaro]

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Maybe if all those scared little nooby blues would go and do something outside of Guards zones then you would not see a glob of reds standing bored out of their minds. As far as the pics goes, nobody in BTH really cares about proving anything to you or anyone else. The proof is in the activity of the shard which is low on the PvP side. Its a great if you like killing swoops or something that can't fight back.

3 days not a single spawn attempt..yawwnn...

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what a waste of time,.. but anyhow,... it doesn't surprise me,.... thats what BTH
is all about,... they all say the same thing, I DON"T CARE,.. but yet you BTH guys love to think your better than everyone when you AREN"T. You love to grief everyone on the forums for the fun of it and complain about, how bad the Origin shard is,...&lt;SMACK&gt; I got news for you I am proud of the Origin shard,.. we are the first to get every publish,...now that is fun,... and I am sooo tired of reading about how BTH is so great ,.. because the simple fact of it is BTH is just another zerg guild that has to have numbers to survive,...there are 4 to 6 people on the entire guild roster that can pvp 1 v 1. thats a JOKE! &lt;SMACK&gt; OWNED

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*Gets on my soap box infront of the ~D~ boy scout convention*

I come here not to grief but to **** you off and maybe entice you to actually try something. Grow some gonads and take the drivers seat for a change which is something I have seen very little of so far. Raid our spawns, grief us, pound us, gank us out our public houses make our time in UO hell. IT IS WHAT WE WANT. Do something for god sake. My interest are field fights, this is real pvp and even the odds are in your favor. The D alliance has the numbers to try I have seen it before but it seems to have faded with to many stampings. Maybe you guys seem to be content with Yew gate, that about as lame of PvP as you can get but to each is his own. The only time I see action is when PK comes on at some insane hours and all the little noobies come crawling out of the wood work. I will give credit to PK for having a good amount of numbers with skill and guts but for they rest of you well only 5 that even are worth mentioning bother to try. As far as the 1on1 pvp goes well I offer you the same thing I offered VII whom seem to do nothing but back out of a fair 1on1 gauntlet. Since you seem to be another loud mouth that claims to be a 1on1 pvp god then step up to the challenge. For god sake I hope you have more talent that VII and at least have the guts to try.

It's strange that we have to beg the shard to kill us.

[ReturnOfVII]

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I offered VII whom seem to do nothing but back out of a fair 1on1 gauntlet. Since you seem to be another loud mouth that claims to be a 1on1 pvp god then step up to the challenge. For god sake I hope you have more talent that VII and at least have the guts to try.

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You got me confused kiddo, I tried gettin any BTH 1v1 and all I got was 4 more coming at me, and yet you failed. You guys aren't even good enuff to waste my time with so ya I moved on to where more challanging pvpers are, you guys are just a group of wanna bes who couldn't cut it on a more populated shard. I'm sorry but I'm not here for BTH, proving your just a failure of a guild was just alil something to pass the time away. All I've seen out of BTH is just how much trash you can talk not once have I seen you kids back it up. So good luck with that one day you might be something other then a failure in pvp on a low populated shard.

Hey it looks like your on at a decent hour. Why don't you come out of Luna and come kill us. Also didn't you say you weren't posting here about us anymore or something to that effect?

[Odinou812]

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Hey it looks like your on at a decent hour. Why don't you come out of Luna and come kill us. Also didn't you say you weren't posting here about us anymore or something to that effect?

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WOW this is funny after reading this thread then noticing the PVP pic thread you guys are truly idiots isn't VII a red char? and you calling him out of Luna? And from those pics looks like Vendetta wipes BTH's face all over fel, I guess it's true what people say about pvp on Origin. I bet I'll get more of a challange goin to doom naked. Ol'well glad I transfered to the noobie pvp shard of UO.

[CassieDarksong]

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It's strange that we have to beg the shard to kill us.

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I find it strange that you have to beg.

And if you call that begging above, what a pathetic excuse.

For the record, I PvP from time to time, it's not enjoyable like it used to be, but I created a new character went down to Yew Gate fel and got ganked, 3-4 on one poor little mage with nothing but newbie clothes on. Rezzed, ganked again.

How do you keep BTH amuzed? Get a newb, get rezzed several times and rinse and repeat the gank death squad maneuvers. They'll stick around for 30-45 minutes AND call in reinforcments.

Then they get upset when there is nothing but newb items to loot off of corpse.

I'm so glad that a new character is such a challenge that I have to be killed by 3 players when I step out of the guard zone. Zerging is such -great- PVP.

*steps off soap box*

I'll respect BTH when they can show me a reason to respect them. Right now, dolls, you ain't got nothing.

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

Forget it Cassie, they'll have about a million excuses to skirt around the ganking a newb issue just like they did with me earlier in this thread. And the sad part is that wasn't even my point at all. They'll really have a hayday with yours. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CassieDarksong]

Ahh but I fight fire with fire.

It should be fun to watch this fan flames.

But seriously...ganking isn't PVP...it's the looser excuse to win. They know they cant handle 1v1 so they have to go 3-6v1.

Ooooh. Nice numbers. start showing some respect and such and might actually earn some. The trash talking makes most of you sound like school yard bullies--uneducated and annoying. If you could learn some restraint and not smack talk, loads of respect. So far nothing has happened

K. Thx. Bai.

Well I hope you shed this many tears when we are ganked. Fact is we are ganked just as often but you don't hear us crying about it. People like you are just hypocrites and opportunist just waiting for the chance to attack a BTH and run back into hiding. You want respect? Get away from the guard zone, raid our spawns, challenge us at every turn, just do something that actually makes you proud to be within your so called PvP guild, as of right now all you guys/gals have done is hide behind the guards skirts. We only come to Yew gate to shoot fish in a barrel. Hell most of the time we are very outnumbered and you never see this because most of those you don't see are all hidden all around you in the guard zone. You want some kind of fairness that has never once been shown to us well good luck to finding that we have nothing but discontent for you. How many times do we have to keep repeating the same message to you? COME KILL US AND STOP CRYING ABOUT HOW WE ARE BEING UNFAIR.

Oh and Chaucer of BS I love killing newbies and we really don’t care if it has meaning for you. Its about making you dead not happy. So please stop making excuses complaining, whining, bickering, hiding. JUST COME FIGHT.

Well for most of us it’s a game and trash talk is part of it. It’s just the way we vent. We aren't about to change the way we play because "We hurt your feelings" So if your skin is that thin then perhaps you would be better suited playing another game like chess, checkers, twister or even W.O.W. Fel. has a whole set of rules on how players interact with another and if you bring you trammie rules to Fel. then grab another box of tissues because we play for keeps here. So if you think your attempt to insult us or trash talk us are going to gain you respect its not that just makes it all the more sweeter when we drop you off like yesterdays trash. We only respond to brute force. Again come fight and stop complaining.


P.S.

We are crying on the inside.

(Can you believe that?? Wants people to stop trash talking.. lmao)

[CassieDarksong]

I have fought and killed you guys from time to time darlin....but by smack talk let me quote one from about a year ago

"OMG LOL One hit kill" followed by "We rock"

on my 120 mage who was in vamp form scouting in a crappy LRC suit intentionally.

"You suck go back to tram"

Grow up. You don't have to smack talk to PVP. Act your age.

Fact of the matter is, you realie you can't win 1v1 so you have to gank. It's not even PVP then. It hasn't been PVP since AOS. There has been no friggin challenge PVP wise since AOS and even worse since ML. What you call PVP is the new stuff. It's not. And you know it.

Keep making excuses for what you do and why you do it. Simple fact is, you can't 1v1 and you know it so you win your way

More excuses.. Blame EA not us adapt or die... Again stop complaining and come fight.

[CassieDarksong]

*chuckles*

Tactically speaking, why would I fight a group 6 of you against 1 of me?

Where is the logic in that? That's asking to die. I'm not stupid.

Thanks. You'll see me out when you see me. I don't spend hours in the game. So when you do see me, have fun =P I don't give counts.

[Bob Mac]

LOL how can you ask for fights on a dead shard when you recruit the whole fel population. Get realistic........

Well Bob despite your hatred for this shard we love it here. To include those who dislike BTH. There are a lot of good people here and if you didn't find it as welcome as you would have wanted then I would suggest that you find a shard that is more suitable to your liking but coming here to insult the occupants of Origin is silly when you don't even play here. Whom do you hope to gain favor of? Planning another failed take over of Origin? What is it you want?

[Bob Mac]

no actually i was gonna bring a char over here just to grief you guys again since we all know who would win in the kills vs deaths department. In fact I think right now the 5 of us are doing more damage on GL then the whole bth guild did when they were there. But any how I just like to put you in check since half the crap that comes outta any bth is propaganda or just plain lies. I never wanted to take over any shard, i just want pvp. You guys are the BC wannabes........

Then why did you leave the shard to fight on GL? When you were one of the ones who wanted to leave GL in the first place to come to Origin. When you defected and returned with your new guild after two weeks you guys left. Why did you leave? It definitely wasn't from a lack of fighting from our side we love to fight. I don't do lies or propaganda although I'm sure you disagree. I just tell our side of the story weather you agree with it or not I try to stick to the facts. We are already hated what would lying or propaganda do for us? Make the shard like us? LOL. You know by now we don't do popularity votes. Perhaps you should come fight us we would enjoy it just don’t come alone and cry about getting ganked. So come on over and stay awhile we would love to have you in town.

[Bob Mac]

Lol i brought what guild? And no, I doubt you would enjoy my company. But anyhow keep up the good work thinking BTH is good, if they were I wouldve stayed.....and just curious, when did I leave to go to GL? I went to GL once with sx and now with my own guild. Funny thing is if we left like gl wed actually be respected unlike u guys who ran in fear......

Basically either you will come fight us or just board war us. I seriously doubt you'll come to "grief" us because we look forward to fighting anyone who will actually back up their claims of coming to Origin to "Own" us. So lets just move on to the in game fighting instead of this board warring which will always lead us back to my next question which is when can we look forward to fighting you and your guild/friends or whatever it is you would like to bring to us? Or have you lost your in game taste for us?

[xxVIIxx]

Speaking of board wars, since BTH fails here they've made a generic guild forums I guess so they can stroke themselves with their own lies of ownage. It honestly looks like a 12yr old made the web site but you can't really expect much better from BTH given their mentality. Good job kiddies just another failure in life for BTH. Atleast you have a place to post in private without looking like idiots in front of the whole shard.

[SirThomas]

Heh I read theyre history... I love their claim how everyone in D has no job :P The one who claims we have no job is also the one who is on from 8 am till 3-4 am. I recall waking up in odd places and Studying till 4 am when I was in college. My question pub is how can you play 16 hours a day, go to school full time, have a job and study?I had UO when I was in college and yes I played it a fair bit on the weekends but my main priority was plowing sorority girls.
I can only think of 2 people in D who are unemployed both of them are stay at home parents. The real problem they have is we can field people from 5 am - 3 pm with our japanese ally's and 11 pm - 5 am with our second shifters. Its the 3 pm - 11 pm time frame BTH has numerical superiority.

I've seen plenty of "D" on during prime time (est). Last night they actually came out to fight. I have to give them credit for trying and even though they were forced back to town fighting and eventually house fighting and finally logging off or to go stand in luna bank. Thank you anyways for coming out it was loads of fun I hope we can do this again soon, like tonight.

[Beer Guy]

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Well I hope you shed this many tears when we are ganked. Fact is we are ganked just as often but you don't hear us crying about it. People like you are just hypocrites and opportunist just waiting for the chance to attack a BTH and run back into hiding. You want respect? Get away from the guard zone, raid our spawns, challenge us at every turn, just do something that actually makes you proud to be within your so called PvP guild, as of right now all you guys/gals have done is hide behind the guards skirts. We only come to Yew gate to shoot fish in a barrel. Hell most of the time we are very outnumbered and you never see this because most of those you don't see are all hidden all around you in the guard zone. You want some kind of fairness that has never once been shown to us well good luck to finding that we have nothing but discontent for you. How many times do we have to keep repeating the same message to you? COME KILL US AND STOP CRYING ABOUT HOW WE ARE BEING UNFAIR.

Oh and Chaucer of BS I love killing newbies and we really don’t care if it has meaning for you. Its about making you dead not happy. So please stop making excuses complaining, whining, bickering, hiding. JUST COME FIGHT.

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LOL.....fight 1 BTH 1v1 and you have to kill him quick because there are 5 more coming to gank or your in a 1v1 fight with a BTH member and they run to where BTH has a grinder set up or your in a 1v1 fight and they have 3 dismounters that knock you off your mount so they can gank or there is a fight where the numbers are somewhat equal and pub gets on the phone and calls everyone to get on line so that you outnumber us...saw this one day...3 of us killed 5 BTH in fire....as we were looting the bodies, 10 BTH came in...yeah....you guys know how to pvp...LOL. What your guild is all about shows even outside of PvP...over at Swoop the other day, everyone was taking turns on swoop and 1 BTH member came in and attacked swoop everytime. The trammes that were there were shaking their heads....I dont know how many times I have been chased by 5 or more BTH across the map....whats wrong? Cant fight without a group?

Maybe you didn't understand. I'll dumb it down for you ok.

"W-E D-O N-O-T C-A-R-E A-B-O-U-T B-E-I-N-G F-A-I-R"

WE ONLY WANT YOU DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! If you want fairness go back to killing swoops in turns until one of us arrives to take that from you as well. I really hate to be so abrasive but some of you not all just don't get it or can't get it and never will get it so this is how I have to s-p-e-a-k to you hoping something will click. How many times will it be before you stop complaining about the same old topics on how unfair and miserable that BTH has made your life on U.O. So just come kill us? Again.. Please come kill us. Please! Make our time on U.O. as deplorable as yours.

[Beer Guy]

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Maybe you didn't understand. I'll dumb it down for you ok.

"W-E D-O N-O-T C-A-R-E A-B-O-U-T B-E-I-N-G F-A-I-R"

WE ONLY WANT YOU DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! If you want fairness go back to killing swoops in turns until one of us arrives to take that from you as well. I really hate to be so abrasive but some of you not all just don't get it or can't get it and never will get it so this is how I have to s-p-e-a-k to you hoping something will click. How many times will it be before you stop complaining about the same old topics on how unfair and miserable that BTH has made your life on U.O. So just come kill us? Again.. Please come kill us. Please! Make our time on U.O. as deplorable as yours.

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We know.....everyone knows. Thats why yesterday, we took 2 spawns from you...we had a ghost in the star room and heard Pub crying after the first one...telling everyone to stop crying in Vent when they lose....we all got a good laugh out of that. You guys spawned dispise again, we started doing it and then BTH managed to knock us off the spawn after calling in more people and we came back and had fun killing all of you....I have a screen shot of the Terathen Keep bridge with BTH bodies littering it...we have renamed that bridge "BTH Memorial Bridge". Yeah...life is sweet when you are outnumbered 2 to 1 and still win.

When exactly did this happen? Because I don't recall any Terrh. bridge fight, nor any fight in Terrh. and the whole time I was on we lost no spawns. We had one fight in the star room but it was cleared out within about 10 minutes. Other then that most of the fighting was done in Serpents hold and in Fire dungeon. So whenever this fight happened it must have been pretty late and surely not anywhere near prime time. So if you call a Terrh. bridge fight a solid win for you guys that’s just lowered expectations. Perhaps if you guys were "Allowed" to fight us at a normal time then maybe you can raise your standards just a Lil higher then what they currently are. Sad but true. Come kill us please. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cherie XX]

LOl crazy horse you are still the same... Gosh good to see some people dont grow up..

[Cherie XX]

Bob lets go have some fun with bth again... Should be great fun lol... They can sit in there house and cry that we out number.. lol

Hmmmm.. Lets see.. You were killed off the shard or quit U.O. You probably won't come to ORIGIN anyways. So you coming here asking BOB for help is just silly. He won't come here anyways. The most that will come of your posts will be you telling us that ORIGIN is a dead shard or how BTH only ganks or something to excuse yourself from actually fighting here but whatever it is its going to be something to try to detract from our success with ORIGIN shard. So do yourself a favor and put up or shut up.

[Beer Guy]

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When exactly did this happen? Because I don't recall any Terrh. bridge fight, nor any fight in Terrh. and the whole time I was on we lost no spawns. We had one fight in the star room but it was cleared out within about 10 minutes. Other then that most of the fighting was done in Serpents hold and in Fire dungeon. So whenever this fight happened it must have been pretty late and surely not anywhere near prime time. So if you call a Terrh. bridge fight a solid win for you guys that’s just lowered expectations. Perhaps if you guys were "Allowed" to fight us at a normal time then maybe you can raise your standards just a Lil higher then what they currently are. Sad but true. Come kill us please. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Ahh..in denial huh.....thats good...keep telling yourself that. Lets see...the last big fight we beat BTH down was around 1 PM EST....I dont know where you live, but thats not late. As for your "come kill us"...we have been...we have been, but some of us have a life and cant be on 24/7. So please tell me whats a good time to come kill you guys....we have killed you during prime time, in the morning, in the late evening and all you guys do is get on the phone to call in twice the numbers we have. I'll see if I can say it so it will sink into your head.....you have numbers....that doesnt make you good. If we had more people than BTH, you guys would move to another shard and try your luck there....oh wait...you guys tried that...ROFL.

[Cherie XX]

Hmmm I believe I am on Origin and i checked all spawns and everywhere and ya its dead.. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif Im back though for real.. Killed off shard? I think not i left to help friends on LS..

It was dead. We made it that way. If you had that much power within your guild you would also do it. Oh also you were in Bucs Den. Pub dropped you like a rock. After that you went skipping off into the woods never to be seen again. When you got your rez we suspect you logged off for the duration of the day. By the way whats your guild now?

[Cherie XX]

Hmm i had just got onto origin when he killed me no macros http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif so thanks.. Hmm log off im still on kiddo.. Where were you? Oh thats right hiddin on a archer.. Thats where u belong hiding..

[Bob Mac]

Please dont talk for me crazy horse, its bad enough you havent made a name for yourself on this pos shard. But dont worry I am coming over and I bet BTH will be worse per player then BC. Hell I bet AE is more talented, I mean both of you fell off the BC tree of PVP styles........

[Bob Mac]

k lol, if you say it it must be true......spin it how you want, its what your good at. The only thing BTH has ever proved since being on origin is that they can recruit more meatshields in a hurry. But heres the facts, WD went to origin and in the first week BTH wouldnt log in, after most WD left back to legends BTH came out (ala BC) and claimed a win. BTH later came to legends and recruited everyone they could off the shard and repeatedly died over and over until they had enough numbers on to support there ress stations. You see crazy unlike you who depend on others to beat people in this game I like to be self sufficent.

We have never retreated and I'm sure you know that given your past membership with us although you would log off when the fights got to tuff for you which are one of many reasons you aren’t with us today but most of us we see it through to the end whether we win or lose. Even when outnumbered and the proof is within the battles we do with our enemies. Although our enemies hate us, I seriously doubt they would agree with W/D coming here and winning and if they did such a great job here in taking us down why did they leave and not rule the shard like so many would love to do? You’re making yourself sound silly Bob. Also if you say your coming here to fight us then I take it your not joining a guild nor will you have allies here you are coming here alone to fight us. This is using your own words . . .

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"You see Crazy unlike you who depend on others to beat people in this game I like to be SELF - SUFFICIENT" (Since I went to college I took the liberty of spelling it correctly for you.)

If that’s the case then I'm sure there are a lot of us who will be waiting in line.

[Forgotten Soul]

Okay sorry but I have to laugh at what happened today. I was afk at luna bank and this greeny kills me, and steals my 375 aids cause im a tamer. I get my pvper and i say brit fel. he cast gate its to his friends house. We meet on vesper bridge his friend is red and they attack me on my tamer. I sick doggy and he is almost dead and hides/stealth. No biggie. Then he tries to lure dog while his girlfriend talks smack. Luthein, then I run around for oh about 30 minutes till i get tired of laughing so hard, my side aches. I get my dog and go back to luna. Luthein shows up 5 mins later says they couldnt kill me cause i was in town. Even after I had flagged on them. 2 reds one tamer with zero eval lives. So beware all you reds out there if you see a guild named LOS they have a couple reds in another guild the can roxxers mongbats. PS, I asked if he wanted to try and fight my fisherman with his red he ignored me http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Bob Mac]

so basically crazy I logged off now when the fights got tough? lololololololol. Now i will call you a plain LIAR. And I bet you want me to run alone that would almost make it fair huh lololo. Anyhow Ill see u on the field, hope u like playing in greyscale. Btw dont log after to many deaths ok? Oh and thanks for putting that I in for me, maybe you can get outta mess duty or get an xtra weekend pass now.....didnt know they had english teachers in the coast guard now.....

Actually I was referring to your logging off when you were with BTH and you just couldn't handle the pressure and would cave in. It was just as you did with W/D and I would suspect it will be the same when you come here again for the 3rd time with this new guild you probably cajoled into coming here because of your own selfish bitterness and frustration with BTH. Also the corrections I made for you were the misspelling of the word "sufficient" and the capitalization of the name "Crazy" that didn't include your punctuation. It's amazing what one could learn during mess duty or whatever it is you call it. As for you to run alone I was taking your own words as that. It's what you said and it seems now that back peddling on that issue as well.

[Bob Mac]

ROFL, so crazy since Im the one who logged in BTH supposedly why is it that I fight against zergs since I left BTH? You sir are the weak one not me, please dont try to spin your shortcomings into mine. I hope your pvping ability is better then your boadwarring skills, but i bet there the same as when I was in BTH ......none. BTW Im glad hooked on phonics worked for you!

[Bob Mac]

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Actually I was referring to your logging off when you were with BTH and you just couldn't handle the pressure and would cave in.

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Please dont try to correct grammer when you cannot comprehend run on sentences.......

I killed you then and for your 3rd trip around I'll kill you again.

[Bob Mac]

Fact- I left after catching pub stealing scrolls..........
nuff said.......

[Ivana Killalot]

and trust me Bob....he took what he wanted when he wanted. Grant it he would help out an ephor if a scroll was needed, but dishonest none the less. I cant tell you how many +25 stats he swapped in and out. I mean probably 100's over the past couple years. Im so glaD to be rid of the dishonest trash. Its nice to be in guild were everyone respects each other and noone steals.

[Larisa]

I second that http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif Even though I REFUSE to fight at Yew gate cus it's just lame and I haven't been on alot lately....fighting side by side with my friends is worth more to me then all the scrolls and gold in UO.

Well because Kyoko was dismissed from BTH does not compromise, my loyalty to BTH why should it? I enjoy my time in BTH and despite what most believe we do have a lot of fun (mostly laughing at you guys) and just as well I enjoy my time with Kyoko as well. So why would I not defend BTH? But what I do not understand is I’ve had conversations with all of you at one time or another and although we may or may not agree but one thing for sure is you all have conspired against BTH yet at the same time smiled in my face and called me a friend and now that you’re on the other side of the fence your trying to make me into this person you’ve always hated which is fine except the fact that it makes you into a back stabbing and two-faced liar. I’ve made no false pretenses about where I stand with BTH. Everyone one of you have tried to mar BTH and its loyal members into something we are not. You call Pub a thief yet all of you would spawn from dusk to dawn, all of you complained about BTH and about Pub yet it was the money and scrolls, and the fact that you have spied on us for months that has kept you on-board this whole time and now and only now do you all of a sudden develop a conscience of right and wrong about 95% of you were booted the other 5% knew it was coming and left. HYPOCRITES!

We spawn daily and at all times of the day, which in a weeks time we have hundreds so in all this time you trip on a spawn that we have basically stopped defending because no one ever comes to raid with the exception of maybe some -R- guild (another D allied) and you guys come up with the scrolls. You call that a success?!! You’ve got to be kidding me. Seriously, is that really your game plan to destroy BTH? To win one out of hundreds of spawn at 4am EST and that’s a win? I think your other plan of avoiding us altogether would have worked better.

The other day I saw your new recruit Trammie and he took a beating like a champ. He said his account got hacked so he was looking for a new account. I think that makes it his fifth account that has gotten hacked thus far. If I didn’t know any better id swear, he was making an excuse for his losses. I’m going to make a prediction. After he gets destroyed by us numerous times he will steal from your guild and run back to G.L. or another shard. I know what your thinking. How do I know this? Lets see maybe he has done it before. Maybe he has done it more then once. No. I’m saying he has done it every time he has had a “New” account with a new guild. And as far as Bob well I can say he is not dishonest but I will tell you and you were Ivana when W/D got destroyed and he wouldn’t log on ORIGIN. Now I don’t expect you to side with what im saying but the fact is if Bob would have won here on ORIGIN then he would have stayed here to rule but he didn’t and now he’s back for 3rds but this time with a new guild -FL- which they don’t wear any guild tags to hide the fact that they don’t want people to know who they are. Well to conclude this why don’t you all come out and just fight us? You know where we are. You know were we live. Yet the only fight you give us is a guard fight. Again come kill us please.

[xxVIIxx]

What kills me is BTH tried to do factions and couldn't handle 4 ppl 2 of them were only thieves so they had to zerg of course putting like what was it 8-10 ppl in 2 different factions just to handle 4. Your still not considered pvpers, just another zerg griefing guild nothing more. So just in case you haven't noticed this is a PVP smack thread so learn to pvp then talk smack.

I hadn't joined the factions but from what I understand the whole faction thing was not about fighting nor had anyone in factions posed any threat. I doubt anyone ever thought anyone was in factions. It was about farming regs. We are an all red guild which means there are plenty of reds for you to attack we don't have to join a faction to prove anything. You over rate yourself in thinking that you matter.

[Bob Mac]

See crazy here you go posting from your ass again....Im not in FL or ever have been with em at any time. I have xfered over but havent had enough time to play on origin atm. WD did not get killed off the shard they got bored off. I had never double crossed anyone in BTH, in fact I tried to keep it a secret that I caught Pub stealing from the guild because I was leaving the guild when xfers opened to greener pastures (and i still had friends in the guild or so I thought so I didnt wanna make waves for em). That is why before I left he called my house and work (thank god i changed my number). I left earlier then xfers because Pub kicked tons which made sadistik leave. And they were my friends which I am loyal to. You see next time learn the facts before you speak.

[Bob Mac]

Oh and I dont play to "rule" shards, ive learned that if you rule a shard, pvp decreases, in fact since I left BTH ive joined small guilds for PVP. In fact once a guild that I was in took over a shard I left....Id rather see 8 small guilds running around instead of one or two greedy ones that will scam and steal from each other......

[xxVIIxx]

I don't care if you think I don't matter I don't care what BTH thinks of me if they do at all because BTH are a bunch of nobodys. You don't rule Fel nor Origin at all, you guys can't pvp, your personality's are imature, your nothing but failures who do nothing but try to grief everyone then brag about it. Your post are a waste of forum space. Don't misunderstand my reason of posting and even giving you the time of day I'm just alil bored at the moment.

One second I need to go have a cry because you guys are hurting my feelings......LOL (i'm really crying on the inside)

[accessdenied]

This is to BTH (I believe Sir Gello in particular). I was fighting at yew gate and lost my tunic and gorget, both dyed invul. blue. I forgot to auto insure and would be interested in buying them back. You can respond here or pm me. Thanks.

Well I inquired about your.. I mean his armour, and he said not a chance in hell. We keep what we kill. Hard, and fast rules but it seems to work well with us.

Note: he wasn't asking for it to be GIVEN back, he was asking to buy it back, now turn around and go ask again.

Anytime! That's what we're here for. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Delaro]

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I wouldn't expect anyone in BTH to be man enuff to give anything back, remember they are a imature griefing guild not a respectable PVP guild like you would see on most shards. But I'm willing to help you with new armor if you need just PM me here.

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Your silly comment isnt needed, as a 3rd party that is none of your concern. As for FL lossing stuff.. well good. Allies of mine went through the same ordeal on Pac and never received a single item back regardless of the return price. It's not like Access can't afford to replace it anyway its just inconvient to find stuff on Origin or wait for a person to xfer here.

Welcome to Origin FL.. hope your still around when I return to OU... would be nice to fight you once agian when your Zerg mojo isn't working and you have to fight even up battles. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[accessdenied]

Delaro? Will you spoon with me?

we can't pvp, just whither.

[Ivana Killalot]

RACK EM VII!!! That was funny.

[Bob Mac]

All I can say crazy after your performance in despise is that this is a pvp discussion thread. Please keep ur b.s on the trammel threads.........k? 1v5 owned? gg......high five! noob.......

[Bob Mac]

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hope your still around when I return to OU

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OU? Origin University? that the new special ed. pvp school?
Did you pull a typical BTH move and go into hiding when a new guild comes around that can actually pvp?

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You must be speaking of the special Ed school you tried to run when you crawled out of your hole a few months back? You remember ?? The how to kill with a crappy Archer in 90 seconds or run and hide academy. I notice your reallllyyy good are the running part. Why do you bother, the only kills you get are the nooblets or the ones you steal from your guild mates. As far as me hiding from FL, Why???? I got bored of them on Pac as did a good portion of the PvPers there so why would Origin make any difference. As SAS stated they don't PvP just wither. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smirk.gif My reason for not playing is Working full time and finishing my MSME which I have been working on and off for 10 years. OU will take a back seat until im done, I will not bother playing unless I can devote more than 30 minutes a day to the effort. Don't worry VII I will call you and your little house hiding friend "Ivana wanna hide from BTH a lot" out when I return. In the mean time you can share your best **** sexual prison slang with Origin's new **** of the month Access Denied since he seems to uses it a lot.

FL being here can't make this shard any worse PvPwise.. just maybe BTH might be able to find a fight in their prime time and not see the little weenie house mouses that don't seem to build up any courage until some insane hours of the night... Right Ivana????

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Wow the Pub is strong in this one.......in more ways then one :P

[xxVIIxx]

I can see how your upset that not even four of you kids couldn't handle my basic archer char. Ya so I run when more then 1-2 attacking me at sametime I wasn't hiding in a house or anything you just aren't good enuff. And I see your still upset about you and your guilds failures on Origin but it's ok you don't need to cry on the boards about your personal problems about why your not playing or why your hiding behind RL problems. You say you got bored on Pac but I feel it was you weren't good enuff to hang in fel there so you came here found the biggest group of UO failures and made a home for yourself. Maybe we'll see each other again when you aren't grounded and your parents let you play again.

[xxVIIxx]

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Wow the Pub is strong in this one.......in more ways then one :P

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I know it's fun to pick on these kids about how bad they play the game but lets don't attack their sexuality.

I have no idea who you are or who came from PAC but it wasn't BTH. Also we wish to fight FL who came here to raid us but it seems we can only find them in the wee hours of the night and when we do find them it seems its only choke point fighting that they wish to do. When FL does come out of hiding “D” decides it wants to piggy back them by attacking on another front and still loses the battle. Talk about lowered expectations. When will this guild get our from under our boots and start fighting on their own? Other guilds carry "D" to the fight if it wasn't for VII, PKS, -R- and KORN showing them and urging them to come to the fight I seriously doubt that "D" would ever leave the guard zone. Perhaps this is why "D" allies itself with every guild that comes here so that they can do the fighting while "D" tries to sneak in a rat spawn in hoping that the other allies don't notice. Now this isn't a bash it's just what has been happening.

Oh and bob you died at least half a dozen times until you logged off I die once and you come to the boards to brag about it. I actually never knew I was that big of a target for you but hey thanks for the worship. I never claimed to be the best nor the worst but if you wanna duel that’s ok with me too. Just let me know when you would like to do it.

[Delaro]

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I can see how your upset that not even four of you kids couldn't handle my basic archer char. Ya so I run when more then 1-2 attacking me at sametime I wasn't hiding in a house or anything you just aren't good enuff. And I see your still upset about you and your guilds failures on Origin but it's ok you don't need to cry on the boards about your personal problems about why your not playing or why your hiding behind RL problems. You say you got bored on Pac but I feel it was you weren't good enuff to hang in fel there so you came here found the biggest group of UO failures and made a home for yourself. Maybe we'll see each other again when you aren't grounded and your parents let you play again.

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Every time I have seen you in action it was running. Regardless if it was running from a 1on1 or a 3on2 in your favor. You sure have a big Ego for someone that always runs from a fight. My few instances of actually fighting you ended up in a yellow streak up your back and the smell and sight of urine down your trousers, either go away of buy some of those rubber panties and hide some of the embarisment. I left Pac becuase of Bordom as a majority of =I= alot of G!B and even many of the mighty FL members did. Every night it was the same thing, months and months of seeing exactly the same people doing the same things. Always a choke point battle with nothing to gain or being overrun by every noobley FL could recruit. If you knew anything about bigger shards or shards FL has been on you would see what I mean. FL don't mean PvP just like DeathClaw stated above.

I came to Origin to fight BTH but instead was invited to join, I made the choice to become a member only after seeing how pathetic the Allaince was. You said you were once a memeber, I think you got kicked out for your cowardly ways. Proof is in your actions boy and nothing you have done or said in the last few months prove any of your claims.

[xxVIIxx]

Your full of it, I fight alone only carried the D tag cause of the war which you lost. None of you would fight me 1v1 you kids were too scared to leave Pub or Gravs side even when I'd take either one of them out. I don't even know who your BTH kiddie char is I guess you weren't good enuff to even stand out in a group of noobs. Ya I was once a member of BTH because a good friend of mine was a ephor and at the time there were some decent players in BTH now the only decent ones are Beast and Timmy. I never was kicked, me and my ephor friend left to play WoW we were pretty much sick of BTH backstabing each other and crying on vent. And sick of a old game with old graphics and lack of a pvp system. I did come back and did do what I set out to do, I'm sorry if you hid too long to catch me in action maybe if you pulled your head out of Pub's rear you might of ran into me more. The proof is on the PVP pic thread. Your attempts to insult me or how I pvp doesn't matter maybe if you were actually good I might take offense. Now if any of these words are too big for you to understand I'm sure mom or dad or even your OU tutor will help you sound them out.

[Bob Mac]

like I said crazy this is the pvp section please dont post your not qualified.......

[Delaro]

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Your full of it, I fight alone only carried the D tag cause of the war which you lost. None of you would fight me 1v1 you kids were too scared to leave Pub or Gravs side even when I'd take either one of them out. I don't even know who your BTH kiddie char is I guess you weren't good enuff to even stand out in a group of noobs. Ya I was once a member of BTH because a good friend of mine was a ephor and at the time there were some decent players in BTH now the only decent ones are Beast and Timmy. I never was kicked, me and my ephor friend left to play WoW we were pretty much sick of BTH backstabing each other and crying on vent. And sick of a old game with old graphics and lack of a pvp system. I did come back and did do what I set out to do, I'm sorry if you hid too long to catch me in action maybe if you pulled your head out of Pub's rear you might of ran into me more. The proof is on the PVP pic thread. Your attempts to insult me or how I pvp doesn't matter maybe if you were actually good I might take offense. Now if any of these words are too big for you to understand I'm sure mom or dad or even your OU tutor will help you sound them out.

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You need to get your stories straight and stop lying, it doesnt help back up your big ego if you post a different excuse every time. You said you quit and went to another shard now you say you quit to play WoW.. really get it straight. As for no 1on1.. thats BS.. you had 3 oppertunities to fight me 1on1.. I even told everyone to back off and you still ran like a little girl. Get over it loser you got kicked out of BTH and now I caught you lying once again.

[xxVIIxx]

LOL you better have your OU tutor help you with my post, anyone who knows me knows why I left and where I went. I'm with the guild I started off with on Origin, Illuminati we all left UO sametime to play WoW and most of us still are. I did take chars off Origin to hang with friends on LS. After your tutor helps you read and understand the post you better find a BTH member to give you alil history lesson on BTH since the beginning of Origin. 90% of the former BTH you see or hear about didn't get kicked they left because they got tired of being screwed over by their own members mainly Pub and his scroll scam. I personally didn't care about scrolls but after seeing how Pub and Bum were with the EM's attempt to have a PVP tourny I lost faith, anyone who has to cheat any chance they get is pathetic. As for a 1v1 I don't know what noobie char you have in BTH but NEVER has a BTH member steped up to a 1v1. Who duels archers anyhow. Quit trying to make excuses becauses someone who knows you from Pac are here on Origin. I'm sure they see you suck here just as bad as you did there.

[xxVIIxx]

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like I said crazy this is the pvp section please dont post your not qualified.......

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true story

Seriously I wish BTH members would stop trolling pvp threads, maybe they could make them their own griefing thread so they have somewhere to post and brag about their griefing. Everyone knows BTH isn't a pvp guild. Even with this being a role play game they fail at even role playing a pvper.

So are you saying you aren't going to duel me? If no why not? I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not the one who continuously avoids the enemy guild by changing the hours that I play to sneak in a rat spawn when the enemy is asleep nor am I the one who posts on Origin boards and plays "WOW" or another plays on shard. It's very simple everyone in BTH earns their own way. You can make all the accusations against us all day long yet we continue to dominate all of the guilds here in the present, past and future and the proof is we are still standing and making you fear us. Everyone knows this except the few discruntals who have been booted from BTH like yourself and when we refuse you back into the guild you come here and post like some angry kid just sent to their room. Call it propaganda all you like but its true. We enjoy you running your false stories on the boards because it just shows how much we have disrupted your game play from "WOW" just to come here and post about us because when its in game you have had zero affect on us.


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I really find it hilarious that you play “WOW” and another shard yet you can't seem to pull yourself out of the hate, envy and anger and cannot resist talking about us on the boards.... If that isn't "ownage" I don't know what is.

[Delaro]

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So you learned to make a list in OU special ed. class nice can't wait till you graduate to reading.

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WoW you must have been at that flame for hours, even your forums skills suck. Agian with another unoriginal, dry and pointless piece of VII trash. Did your Flame for Dummies book come in? Looks like your up to page 8.. good job.

tisk..tisk.. you can't even insult me in a original way, same old recycled trash.

[xxVIIxx]

You got no room to talk about being unoriginal, atleast I can spell simple words like "again". You can't even mock my post right with out messing it up. Give it up kid your not in my league. So go back under Pub's desk and get back to studying.

[Delaro]

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You got no room to talk about being unoriginal, atleast I can spell simple words like "again". You can't even mock my post right with out messing it up. Give it up kid your not in my league. So go back under Pub's desk and get back to studying.

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To make a spelling error at 5:30am is human. This is a forum not a college technical writing class, you will find 99% of the post on any forum do not follow correct grammar structures and spelling mistakes are a given...... deal with it as I have with your dribble. What you see in the forums is a mixture of internet slang and about a 6th grade English level mixed with a written form of how you would speak just like instant message jargon. This does not reflect the typists intellect or education level but instead show just the laziness. Its kind of like reading engineering quotes or evaluations from a Doctor, its not full English but rather something easier to write at the time. The point was made regardless of a mistake so sue me for not being fully aware at the time.

Exactly what class are you referring to..huh?? The I can recycle the same insult over and over piece of trash club? Or the I suck at PvP so bad no guild wants me club? You run around on Origin solo for a reason, it doesn't take long to see how pathetic in or out of the game you appear to be. So continue your same old " Your stupid.... I is the Origin PvP god" flame over and over and prove the low level of maturity you have by projecting your pathetic existence onto this thread. Grow up and face the music your not the god you think you are.

[xxVIIxx]

My post most real get under your skin kid for you to make such a long reply of things you have no clue of. Don't talk to me about PVP, you have no clue of how to PVP so don't bother pretending you do because it's already been proven BTH failed at PVP.

P.S. btw so you had to sneak on the computer at 5:30 am before school started? is this BTH's new primetime since FL came?

The one thing about last night that gave me absolute and pure joy was watching Pubs recall leaving his guys to die on a boat. When we choose Origin as the shard to visit I told many tales of the old days on GL where Pubs would bring his guys to BC island and recall when the going got rough and leave them to die. Thank you Pubs for making the entire FL teamspeak laugh hysterically tonight when you did just that for they never thought that really a leader would recall and leave his guys to die.

[Bob Mac]

Kal Ort Por

[The Red Knight]

Last nigth was some good fun fighting, I thank everyone involved, on all sides, for the action.

We win some, we lose some, but last night we definitely did the winning. Hopefully as our colony continues to grow, and develope, we will see more nights like last night.

[WarUltima]

Last night was so funny, btw BTH lost several spawns back to back this morning again. Maybe Puba isnt that bad its because Pub is too good to die so all his members has to cover for him so he can safely recall out the pvp zone. Well again Pub probably isnt really into this pvp thing anyways and accidentally turned his character red and talk tough all day while have his handy recall-on-danger script turned on. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Well the fact is FL rarely fights. We wait around all day hoping you guys will come out during a decent hour. We have been beating you all week and every single time we do you guys log off not to be seen for days. We were under the impression that FL has come here to take over Origin, Yet what seems to be happening is you ignore every other guild and attack BTH which is fine by us but we also have D, VII, KRON, PKS and R attack us at the same time which is nothing more then an alliance. Now just because those other guilds sold out Origin to help FL and you win an occasional fight with BTH really doesn't mean anything. I’m sure those guilds will come post also to deny and at the same time kiss FL’s arse .The only time FL logs on is when they can steal a two man rat spawn or set up a choke point in despise when they finally log on at 12:30am Est. If this is what you call a win then its nothing more then lowered expectations. Over the past two weeks you don't post anything because your shard raid has failed and in one night you post several times because you win one fight at 12:30am on a Monday.

[The Red Knight]

WEll, you'll have to forgive us for living on the west coast, though Sunday night there were still close to 20 of you in the fight, so somehow I don't think "we were all sleeping" cuts it.

Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but last I heard origon was a colony. i don't believe we've stated exactly what are intentions are for the shard publicly, but I do know that pacific is ours and if some guild came there and started doing to us what we are doing to you I would be bothered. In the world tour we actually moved our mains, en masse, and full scale took over shard after shard after shard. During the world tour when we left a shard we left it to its own chaos, and that included pacific. When I say colony, it means we have remained on pacific, continue our claim to dominance there, and have sent over secondarys and advanced character tokens to begin our rise to power.

You wanted a challenge, you issued a challenge, and we have come. Considering your position of dominance on origon was similiar in nature to ours on pacific, I would imagine you were getting bored to tears, like us, prior to our expansion. So I think we can both agree this is a fun thing.

I've said it before, I'll resay it, BTH is a very strong tough opponent. If we thought you'd be easy to push over we wouldn't have come.

As for the entire shard fighting you at once, sorry not our doing, we don't ally. We see the same thing on pacific, 5 people might be fighting 4 people, an FL walks by and all 9 stop to kill em then go back to fighting each other. That's just human nature, you're the percieved big bully, so everyone gangs up to fight back. If we are engaged with you and other forces roll in ignoring us and attacking you, we'd be silly to kill them at that moment, but on those battles where you lose, if you look around a bit after you've been beaten off the field, you'll see us continue killing until all that remains is FL. My guess is that the smaller guilds, so to speak, probably don't mind dieing as much as long as they can see you die first. On pacific we consider that a compliment, I should think you would feel the same here.

I say none of this to hurt or anger, just to explain. I'll leave the emotional "mines bigger" posts to others. Again thank you for the good fun fights. It is a pleasure to be here.

[Delaro]

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My post most real get under your skin kid for you to make such a long reply of things you have no clue of. Don't talk to me about PVP, you have no clue of how to PVP so don't bother pretending you do because it's already been proven BTH failed at PVP.

P.S. btw so you had to sneak on the computer at 5:30 am before school started? is this BTH's new primetime since FL came?

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Well first off I will point out "Mr. I make no grammar mistakes" just killed that post. If sir “I’m pathetic” decides to point out other peoples brain farts, you best not make so many yourself. Read it Waldo maybe you need to have it read to you in order to understand so go get yer Mommy.. Curl up on her lap and have it read to you as a bedtime story. As for when I post, I have a job that doesn’t involve saying “ do you want fries with that sir? Some of us actually get up early.. Like 4:30 ish, normally I would get my daily gains at that hour but being Im not playing it seemed replying to your childish self centered thread would be a way to pass a little time? Now for what I do, Since when is a MSME part of High School? I work full time flipping between 1st and 3rd shift to get the classes I need and will be done soon enough to come play with the kiddies like yourself. As for the PvP aspect, I gave you opportunities to kill me and your failed only ending up running for dear life. I have to admit you’re the most skilled runner on Origin, I have never seen someone run from more fights than you but at least I haven't seen you house hide so that's a plus. Notice again Im stating I am not playing right now just incase your ADD kicks in and you revert to the thumb sucking idiot we all know so well. As for the dodging FL part, you wont see many FL on at that time.. Even FL players have lives which is pretty amazing. I think I would know this as I have been on Pac since they decided to end the World “ Never left West Coast Shards” Tour. I'm sure nothing will change when I get back, FL will have moved on and you will still be a Loud mouth little puke that has far more time to post than learn PvP.

And for FL.... I think “A BTH Propagandist” had a little hand in getting you here since you know LA would have been a waste of time. Can you guess whom that was? Or maybe the BTH Champion that ran around Pac for a month mocking the Big Red Zerg.. Regardless I though it would have been a lot more fun to have 2 red guilds fighting than only a certain blue guild whom was out numbered and resorted to.. Well the same tactics the ~D~ alliance does.... hiding in guard zones.

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ROFL... a very LITTLE hand. We had been planning colonization for a LONG while and origin had been on the list a long time. And we had more of a reason to come here than the alternate shard we were considering.

As for LA. I think maybe one person thought about going there. Everyone else gave it a big thumbs down. I don't think it was even a consideration 2 months ago.

But all in all, having a wonderful time on Origin, win, lose or draw http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif At least here, our main competition doesn't have to resort to guard hiding http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Well all of BTH are glad you are here and for us it's someone to fight that isn't actually in the guard zone or hiding in town waiting to guard wack someone. We look forward to seeing you on the field. Should be alot of fun and will definately be a hugh step in the right direction. Perhaps you guys could train ~D~ on how to leave the comfort of gate fighting.


Mutual respect...

[Delaro]

I could careless what guild you hunt with in Trammy lands, you claim to have been in BTH and nobody remebers there for you were not worth remebering. You joined ~D~ and apperantly wasn't good enough to hack it, 2 time loser. Your version of PvP is hiding and waiting for a easy 1 hit kill. You dont even have the guts to pick a side and stay with it. Don't lecture me on PVP or make any claims of being anything but a pile of Dog crap, you suck so move on. I picked a side and stuck with it regardless if it was Atlantic, Pac, LA, Sonoma or Origin which means a hell of a lot more than some goof that wants to trash talk on a board and do nothing but run away from any competition.

Continue on with you same old "you suck, I be the PvP god and all BTH members are losers" thread over and over and just prove further how pathetic and worthless you are so pick one up and suck it boy, pick a side or just shut up and move on.

As for FL you know very well you had little or no intention of coming here until you starting getting clues to do so, otherwise you would have came when BTH was at its peak before my time here. Regardless you are here and Pac is free for little blue spawners to run rampent once again.

[The Red Knight]

Um, actually no, pac is not free, The Empire still remains there, origon is a colony.

We are still feared and hated on pacific.

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As for FL you know very well you had little or no intention of coming here until you starting getting clues to do so, otherwise you would have came when BTH was at its peak before my time here.

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better... still doesn't make it true.

We had been planning colonization for close to six months now. We debated shards three months ago. We had a date set probably two months ago at least the bulk of FL learned about it two month ago. We picked a shard about a month ago(between only two shards)

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Regardless you are here and Pac is free for little blue spawners to run rampent once again.

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Hardly. All our primary chars are still on Pac keeping it locked down.

What you are dealing with here are secondary or lower chars if not completely new made chars with secondary quickly put together suits. You are also dealing with a guild learning new guildmate names.

[SirThomas]

All I know is I have fun whenever theres a fight. I dont get much time to fight these days so thats pretty much all I do.

[Delaro]

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Actually, colonization is more of a "hmm, Pac is dead, lets spend 20 minutes on Origin then check Pac again" type of a thing.

Primary goal is keeping Pac dead. If time permits, we come to Origin for some fun http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gifPac been dead a long time, thats why most left 3-4 months ago. Fl most be slow learners or you just get bored of playing hide and go seek with the Bluebies? FL wants to make claims on being the King why didn't they ever tackle Atlantic?

Delaro, first off no one knows who you are so I don't understand why you continue to talk trash. Now please let me illuminate a few things for you:

1. Pac HAS been dead for 2-3 months, true, we realized this after the 2nd day, but being such a large guild and with time on our side we chose to painstakingly take our time in first chosing to play another shard, and then in selecting another shard, and then in moving to said shard. We had the luxury of time and patience and used it to do things in a fashion that suited us. You won't ever understand this because you're probably poor and a democrate.

2. In response to your world tour comments earlier, we hit over 5 shards, INCLUDING GL. GL was an east coast shard and at the time it was the most active PVP shard period, there's no denying that fact. Not only did we go to GL but we humilated thier shard whenever we weren't lagged out (50v50v20v30 in a laggy server for a west coast guild was hard)

3. Due to the lag issues on GL we basically said that we wouldn't do an east coast shard again unless it was unanimous, I'm about as far west coast as it gets and I can definently say that Atlantic would be a dream come true to play on, but I also know that if I had more then 10 people on screen at any point the game would become unplayable for me on atlantic.

Now go back to your dark corner and cry and cut yourself.

Well you aren't dominating here and it seems as if the story keeps changing. First we were told FL is coming here to take over the shard, then destroy BTH then we were told only to set up a colony and last I heard FL is here just to have fun by PvPing. Well last night when FL tried to raid us when the champ came up it was a failed atempt and after that FL never returned. So where's the fun in that? I thought you wanted to have fun. It wasn't an issue of numbers.

[Delaro]

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Well you aren't dominating here and it seems as if the story keeps changing. First we were told FL is coming here to take over the shard, then destroy BTH then we were told only to set up a colony and last I heard FL is here just to have fun by PvPing. Well last night when FL tried to raid us when the champ came up it was a failed atempt and after that FL never returned. So where's the fun in that? I thought you wanted to have fun. It wasn't an issue of numbers.

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Well they wont raid if they can't have the numbers advantage but they will sure post a pic of a raid of a few on spawner charaters losing to a 4 on 2. Typical FL nothing has changed.

[Delaro]

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Delaro, first off no one knows who you are so I don't understand why you continue to talk trash. Now please let me illuminate a few things for you:

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I talk trash becuase I can and nobody else bothers to say anything and If you do not know me I could give a rats ass less. I don't know whom you are or about 3/4 of FL so I guess its even..ehh?

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1. Pac HAS been dead for 2-3 months, true, we realized this after the 2nd day, but being such a large guild and with time on our side we chose to painstakingly take our time in first chosing to play another shard, and then in selecting another shard, and then in moving to said shard. We had the luxury of time and patience and used it to do things in a fashion that suited us. You won't ever understand this because you're probably poor and a democrate.

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Pac has been dead much longer than that and my income and political status means nothing in this game but if you wish to know I own my own home have 2 new cars and am independant.. Let me guess you will ask me for a date now? You make it sound like FL worked hard to do what it did to PAC? I guess recruiting every meat sheild in the game and making them Necros is hard work??..huh?? I guess its a honor of yours to have had damn near every peice of crap scammer in UO at one time in your guild hard work?? Yeah I know exactly what FL will do to get its way, that includes planting spys and having them guild whack members of opposing guilds to get what you want. I've seen this first hand and it drove a good freind of mine away from UO.. So pat yourself on the back for that one.

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2. In response to your world tour comments earlier, we hit over 5 shards, INCLUDING GL. GL was an east coast shard and at the time it was the most active PVP shard period, there's no denying that fact. Not only did we go to GL but we humilated thier shard whenever we weren't lagged out (50v50v20v30 in a laggy server for a west coast guild was hard)

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I was on GL Then I remeber what you did and you wouldnt log in unless you had the numbers advantage just like you do here and Pac. GL was the host guild for my original account and the last server I was on before PAC and before I sold that account which is now in the hands of a FL memeber. And for the lag well.. I live in the central US.. all west coast shards are laggy but that doesnt stop me or the others that live around me from playing.

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3. Due to the lag issues on GL we basically said that we wouldn't do an east coast shard again unless it was unanimous, I'm about as far west coast as it gets and I can definently say that Atlantic would be a dream come true to play on, but I also know that if I had more then 10 people on screen at any point the game would become unplayable for me on atlantic.

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GL isnt a east coast shard, like Legends its in the central US and your ping wouldn't have been real terrible.. 40-70 is playable if you have a decent comp and a good connection. I guess your one of those guys that has to have that "im pinging at 14 advantage to PvP"

[xxVIIxx]

First off trying to explain yourself to anyone in BTH is like trying to to explain physics to a 5yr old. They won't understand, therefore they create a fantasy life of false claims. The BTH you see now is just a bunch of kids living off a legecy that was built for them but they weren't able to live up to. The BTH legecy died over a year ago. The few members they had that were even considered decent pvper's either joined D, left the shard for more challanges, or just left the game all together. Only in their small minds do they dominate anything. The more you prove their failures the more unrealistic excuses they come back with. Notice there are only few even allowed to post on stratics, main reason is they get put in their place, get flustered by the big words and let their childish potty mouths have the best of them.

[DignityFarseer]

Wow all of this is like Days of Our Lives.... you may not read the thread for weeks... then just read the last 2 posts and you will know exactly what is going on... http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

THE SAME DAMN [censored] AS LAST WEEK and the week before that and the one before that!!! Too funny!

[Delaro]

You just prove yourself to be more of a idiot than I thought, you just stated that Ivana,Larisa and Bingy were the best that BTH had as they are the only ones that left to join ~D~. The few decent pvpers ~D~ had joined BTH months ago, geez slither back in your hole archer wannabe, your not one to talk trash about skill and do nothing but run on a really sad archer.

FL beaten again in Terrh keep then FL logs off once again. We didn't wanna fall into your choke point PVP after beating you guys twice. Also I though you said FL has sent a small colony here to have fun and most of your members remain on PAC now if thats true why didn't those members check your spawns? Fact is FL lost another battle and logged off in defeat and now is looking for an excuse to leave to check spawns on PAC. Come fight us again when you have time ok. Till then we'll be waiting for ya.

[Larisa]

Hey! I resemble that remark! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Fact is, Pub kicked me cus he hated a female being better then him...he hated a female yelling at him and standing up to him. I hated what we did...I still hate what they do...if it's anywhere CLOSE to even numbers they cry. If they outnumber FL and win, it's FL sucks go back to PAC....which, I destinctly..good lord I can't spell..remember BTH doing when we tried the same thing..I remember the disaster on Legends...the horror on Atlantic when we tried to "colonize" another shard. We got our butts kicked and retreated to and undead shard with no competition where Pub could feel like a king again.

Sure I wasn't the best at PvP....but I don't suck...I went from ZERO justice to KNIGHT of justice the very next day after Pub kicked me...I remember him RUNNING from Larisa, my archer...at skara gate....if I get them one on one..and yes, Pub was there alone...and he ran..from ME! Lame Larisa who can't pvp....

Get them one on one and they run....get them in a group and they gank. I was down in despise one day watching FL and BTH fight...and I saw a BTH down there get owned...laughing to a friend of mine about it and he gets an ICQ....Well hell, There are only 12 of us and like 30 FL.....*clears throat* Um...I have screenies....it was even numbers....didn't hear a word after that..wonder why? Lie first cus you cant hack it even numbers, then shut up when caught in a lie...*shakes head* very sad.

Umm I don't think it was ever explained as a small colony.

It was stated that moving a char or making a char on Origin was completely voluntary, and the majority of our guild chose to do so, infact I can only think of a few hold outs who haven't done so, so it' isn't like we have two huge split forces on at all times playing origin and pac, we are generally a unified front regardless of which shard we're on, we even have a handfull of people with chars still in training that are red because they are participating with thier guildmates.

But I have to give VII credit, in less then 24 hours Crazy Horse managed to make up some crazy stuff, haha. And what about last sunday? and earlier this sunday in Terra Sanctum and Despise... where are the BTH at when they're out numbered or even numbered? nowhere...

[DarkRaven]

Nice try, lets recap Terra! After losing multiple battles this morning and hiding all morning long, you decided to hide in Terra and do it. You had 13 people doing it when I noticed it. I stealthed in and watched. I informed the 7 people on there was 13 of you and we decided to give it a shot. When the champ got up we popped in and dropped 3 of you in less then 30 seconds. We started chasing you around and a few more BTH poored in. After 10 minutes of fighting and the champ down you killed all but one person. He proceeded in the star room and dropped 4 of you all by himself, while rezzing one person. He moved out of the star room and you chased him around terra. While our 8th man came from despise and killed three more of you joinging the fight in despise. We then regrouped took the star room and farmed you for 20 minutes. We then pushed out to terra with twice the numbers in your favor, and set up a choke point into terra. We then farmed you and pubs at least a half dozen times. You then chose to retreat from the battle, knowing we had beat back twice the numbers. So if you call that a loss, so be it. We then lost at beating you and farming you with half the numbers.......

[xxVIIxx]

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You just prove yourself to be more of a idiot than I thought, you just stated that Ivana,Larisa and Bingy were the best that BTH had as they are the only ones that left to join ~D~. The few decent pvpers ~D~ had joined BTH months ago, geez slither back in your hole archer wannabe, your not one to talk trash about skill and do nothing but run on a really sad archer.

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Ya they were some of the better players in BTH all around, they could pvp they can handle spawns and they are mature about it. Of course you wouldn't know this hiding under Pubs desk like you do but we'll keep your sexuality out of this. You don't know me if you did know anything about me you'ld know that I play more then a archer, like I play more then one game I'm multi talented like that.

[JC69]

pub is the worst pvper ever in uo

I remember on legends he used to recall 1v1 all time, run recall lol

[SirThomas]

Hearing him scream in Vent makes you wonder why anyone is in BTH.

[DarkRaven]

They are hard up to do spawns and most feel that if you can't beat him and his numbers, join them! They should be realizing that he is now losing all the time and he no longer has the shard on lockdown. Time for BTH members to re-evaluate where they are and why they are having KAL ORT POR lead them!

[SirThomas]

We in Dynasty Call him Kegamoto because whenever you kill him you get about a keg's worth of cures heals and refreshs.

[Ivana Killalot]

Well said Thomas....KEGAMOTO!!!! Ive filled 125 pots in a bag at the yew house everyday thanks to pub, atori hanzo, and nutcracker. Trust me Thomas, if it wasnt for gravs passive kindness in Vent, it would only be pub and grav left in BTH. Gravs softness is why the kids stay in bth. No real adult can listen to pub bark orders for too long.

PS I love how as soon as ~D~ has equal numbers, pub has to go shard to shard and find some enemy guild of FL to come allie with bth and help them. Good stuff!

I didn't read the whole thread... Were you talking about FX from FL or about all the japaneses guys you allied? It's pot gallore when I kill them. I arrived on Origin with TBA 4 days ago. The only fight we lost was at despise while D and FL stacked 8-10 necros on that 2x2 broken tile bridge. We rolled over thoses fools in terra and on island on multiple occasions. Other interesting info, everytime we kill a D or a FL, they go crying that we allied BTH. Hell we are 28 at the moment on origin, including our crafters. When you add the numbers of all our alliance and thoses of the D alliance, we are short of 100. Cry more!!!!

I D-Robed FX twice and went laughing at him. He denied and said even fresh rezzed i couldn't kill him, so i proceeded to kill him full life 1v1, wich is not that hard against someone who beleives that around 30 physical resists is enough when you run like the wind, target like the lightning and chug with the precision of a swiss watch. He died under 3 seconds...

As for Vendetta, I killed you 1v1 on my stealther and told you that you know your place in the food chain now! No wonder you take a screenshot at every kill shot you have. And I said killshot, not kills, because we all know that you guys are a zergy bunch of unskilled gimps. In Yew, its very rare that I get a fight 1v1. Last kill i had on you guys, it was 4 on your side against me alone. Thats almost always how it is. Well no problem, i killed my target and survived. But unlike some no life junk that needs to prove they are good (and therefore justify the 15 hours per day they pass behind their screen playing uo), I never take screenshots.

And in an other thread, you guys denied having 60+ players at the harrower. Hahaha, I saw a screenshot of the D Vent including 31 players that day (note: it was the day before TBA started transferring on Origin, we didn't participate to that one). There was closely the same numbers in the FL vent. You even called your vent channel the zerg alliance!!!!! LOLOLOL!

So, to resume the whole thing: you guys cant compete if its not a 2x2 broken tile grinder. We rolled over you multiple times in opened feilds in a way that some of you members icq'd some of ours saying that you would stay on pac if we kept beating you so hard, that "it is not fun". We, from TBA, are having the time of our life here. Most of us are selling the rest of are stuff on Baja and establishing ourselfs here for good. The insurance money and the pleasure to steamroll big numbers of trash guild members with an ego bigger then the universe is too important for us to let pass this opportunity.

So take some more screenshots, we love it, its like propaganda that governements do when the country is in war. "We are not loosing, look, we killed one here!!!"... Well met!

[Blue Knight]

AZUR, rather than using made up fantasy to base your rants against the enemy why don't you just give up and admit that you fail at both UO and life? If I were you, I'd switch to a less mentally challenging game, like whack-a-mole. Then again, those little moles are vicious and that hammer is rather unwieldy, you could hurt yourself.

[DarkRaven]

Let me give you some Haloperidol. Because you are Hallucinating. BTH and TBA where holding Despise when -D- rolled in and pushed the bridge and took it. You lost! Champ Down! They then did despise, you rolled in and rolled out as ghosts! Champ down. Thats two! You went and hid on terra for a second time, after losing the first earlier! The Zerg Alliance as you call it, but whats a zerg like BTH using that word for, or outcasts like TBA! They hit the cliff and wipe you all out. The only one to survive the slaughter was chen who stealthed himself out. We drop the champ! Thats Number three and Four(earlier). Then there is a small battle in Fire even numbers and you lose there. We bring all the pots back home, gets aids regroup, our scouts notice you loading a boat back to terra. We come in through fire into desert and wipe out one boat. The other boat had already hit the beach on terra. You then reload that boat and come back to get killed again. Thats #5! At that point 1/2 your guilds have logged off and you all go to YEW gate to fight and try to win back your confidence. As for the harrower. it was even numbers. You are so full it! It was about 30 people in one ts, FL did not have there TS running for origin. It actually had 5 guys in there doing raids on pac. The guys that where on were in the TS for origin. So before you come to the boards and say anything, get a clue, let alone a life! WE don't use ventrillo, so nice try saying that you got a pic od out vent! You came to try and fight FL. Now you ally with the largest guild on the shard and still lose. So just stop crying! The numbers have been even since that Harrower. Pubs brings you guys on board and you again outnumber us. Your only exscuse for losing you can even consider is numbers? Cross your stone and BTH's, then cross d and FL's! You still have the numbers. As you can see in this post you are hallucinating, so take this Haloperidol and go to sleep! Things will get better when you move off shard!

[Return of Croft]

TBA ?? are those the guys i see running around with BTH? i thought they were hirelings. wow, talk about easier than mongbats.... Bth, yeah im a hater. but i give you credit for finding a worse guild than your own. that had to require skill. they didnt pay to come here did they? or did Pub?


hmm, interesting.. yup interesting.

Dont worrie, denial is the first phase. Then there will be desperancy, anger and resignation. Out of the last time we steamrolled you newbs in Island, we got 2X120 magery. We had at least 3, if not 4 120 magery scrolls in 2 days. Way to go you are just about to run us off!!!

The fights you pretend to have won are all on grinder choke land: Despise and fire. Everytime we fighted you elswhere we steamrolled you. None of us have logged out yet and as we are talking, a second of my character is transferring on Origin. We did make you log off yesterday after Island. Ho, and after our GM called us out of the grinder, most of us were complaining and willing to fight more, and our GM told us it was 100% sure you would come fight on island. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised that he icq'd one of you (he has many contacts in FL) to inform you. So much for the hiding part.

Keep denying, we love your scrolls and your insurance and seeing you log out or hide in your Yew house is pleasing.

[DarkRaven]

Well considering your GM's past history, anything you say has to be either a lie or propoganda. As for field fights, you lost terra sanctum, we even got a pic of pubs leaving the isalnd before his guild. He could not recall out of t2a. As for TBA, you did log off and and hid at yew gate. So please save the propoganda for someone who can believe your lies. Ask any shard you have been too, you talk the talk, but you always wind up doing the walk, that is off shard! You seem to be delusional, did you take those med? As for all those magery's in two days, we all know you are most definately full of it. Like I said, take your Haloperidol! First of all it was not our shard! The resident Zerg on the shard and supposed ownage was by bth. So they hired you to control there spawns. As for insuarnce we made bank of you guys, I made 60k and I am an average PvPer. So take your meds and get some sleep. Maybe your Hallucinations will stop.

Please reffer to my screenie in the screenshot thread. You are easy kills, especially when less then 3v1. Take thoses pills yourself if you think we are ever going to leave this place. Looks like heaven bank to my eyes. And fyi, I was the first to transfer on Origin. I saw two BTH in T2A and killed them. The arragement was made after seeing you 400+ members zergling.

[Lord Vitus]

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Like I said, take your Haloperidol!

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Why don't you stop acting like you are some kind of expert on psychotropic substances and just call it by the brand name, Haldol.

What a nerd.

PS... I've seen too many people get jacked up on Haldol... not a pretty site so stop wishing it upon people.

After completely dominating D and FL all night, in terra, in star, in despise and on island, they were no where to be found. I ran around and found them: in gate guard zone and in their house. Take thoses pills please.

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And a 3v1:

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And again:

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[DarkRaven]

No matter what you it is called, i think the way you get your panties in abunch, you might need it too.

[DarkRaven]

Wow nice pics, but none of your so called victory! The reality is sitting on terra and doing it,is like hiding. The big bad BTH used to chain despise and any spawn they wanted. Now they hide on terra, that way when a boat comes in, then hit it before it lands. Then again thats a page from TBA's book and Pub gave up his shard. You want field fights? I say a boat in the water is not a field fight. The one time you actually did field fight us on terra( last night), you lost horribly. Then again the fights in desert tonight where field fights too, you lost them. So we will let you crawl onto terra and chain all day. We will do all the other spawns and while you hide from field fighting. Our guys have been doing t2a all night and no one comes to raid. I think the BTH saying goes "If that makes you sleep better at night", go ahead. The bottom line is you are hiding on an island, that has the same tactical advantage as despise. The only differance is, we have been doing any t2a spawn you all just hide. You don't do despsie because we took that from you to many times. So BTH and TBA, chain terra all you want, the fight is on the mainland. When you stop being little cowards and running and hiding. Let us know. You have lost the shard and went into hiding.

HAHAHA, PURELY IDIOT!!!! I'm sad for you, really! 4 fights, 4 different feilds, terra, island, despise and star. Bezerked all the way. you won nothing tonight. And you are the one to call us delusional! There is no place more opened feilded then island and you did manage to go off boats to get owned. You are a joke. For now on, i suggest that you die silently and dont come here to brag about stuff that is untrue.

[slipperywhenwet]

Hey FL/D way to get owned all day long again today. After we owned you on island you whined and ran back to despise so you could have a choke point. After telling us that we could never do despise or take it from you what did we do? We took a despise from you (easily too). I as a member of TBA am loving this shard, FL is such trash and gets owned so easily. I thought the best part is how you say we have no skill yet when your "best mages" dueled our mages none of them lasted more than 30 seconds. The best part is that all of FL/D knows to run the other way if it is a one on one or they will shortly be speaking in cheerios. In any case the 300k+ of insure ive made in the two days ive been here is much appreciated, keep sending it my way and i may never have to spawn again. You guys are as worse than TC was, that is very very embarrasing.

[DarkRaven]

WOW such propoganda! You guys don't have a chance. Sop please keep hiding on Terra. You got beat all over the place. The only place you got to hold was Terra sanctum. You turtled up on an isalnd. As for those fights, YOU LOST THEM ALL and went away as ghosts. So next time do what you do best and keep running! I guess in your delusional minds, fire and desert never happened. As for terra, we pushed you out of the dungeon as ghosts and dropped the champ. You tried to hold the star room and we pushed in and killed everyone of you. Whats pathetic is TBA. You talk a lot of crap, but can't back it up. You have lost almost every engagement except when you are turtled up on terra. So you can keep trying to spin it as a win, the reality is you are hiding from a fight!

[Ivana Killalot]

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TBA ?? are those the guys i see running around with BTH? i thought they were hirelings. wow, talk about easier than mongbats.... Bth, yeah im a hater. but i give you credit for finding a worse guild than your own. that had to require skill. they didnt pay to come here did they? or did Pub?


hmm, interesting.. yup interesting.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heres the thing croft. After being a leader in BTH for 5 years and finally coming to my senses and quiting the puba ball, you realize that Pub will always surround himself with little kids that dont know how to stick up for themselves, and uo'ers that are less skilled then he is in pvp. (if you consider Deathstrike, Chugging and running skilled pvp). TBA obviously being the new addition to garbage in BTH. I mean before TBA i was dropping 5-8 bth before i would die once, now with TBA in the picture the numbers have risen to like 10-14 before i die once. I love how Chopper talks smack considering all he does is hide untill he sees someone get ressed then he pops out and res kills, then hides in the shadows again. THUMBS UP!!! Thats quality PVP....your guild will fit in well with BTH, untill you get tired of Pub barking orders at you like a dog. Then you'll all bye transfer tokens and leave.

PS BTH use to have Origin on lock down. Now they have a 3 hour window to win a couple fights. BTH use to be very determined to stop all other guilds from spawning, now D/FL complete 20-25 spawns a day. Whos the real winner here? Exactly!!! BTW primetime on a west coast server is 8pm est - midnight est. Enjoy!!!

[Ivana Killalot]

BTW TBA....Im sure your guild is set on power and stat scrolls, but dont depend on them from doing spawns with bth. Pub and the other ephors keep what they want and dont let other guild members know about it. Enjoy!

[Delaro]

Not sure what your smoking Ivana But BTH Rolls on Scrolls infront of nearly everyone that spawns/raided. You need to lay of the crack pipe and maybe the BTH envey will leave your litttle mind.

[Ivana Killalot]

You clownshoe. Why do you think everyone passes the scrolls to pub or grav at a Harry? But hell, what do i know with my little mind. I only had access to his account for a while and saw all of his uo worth. Remember this, I was one of the few ephor honest about scrolls. End of story. Another reason pub surrounds himself with kids....easy to trick. I heard pub refuses to guild women as well claiming BTH is becoming a Fraternity. At least thats what he himself posted in the lame bth forums. I wont go into details of his horrible posts.

PS I also heard that Pub had to pay for TBA's assistance. Wonder where he got that 100 mill??? i mean with 10-15 of you always rolling for the couple good 20's a day. Od?

YEA....envy! LMFAO

[slipperywhenwet]

20-25 spawns a day....rofl okay. There are no D on from server up til at least 8pm pst. When they finally get on god knows they dont get a spawn in til at least 11pm. I doubt they get more than about 3 spawns a day in, dont ask me how i know im just psychic i know how many spawns happen a day and where they are done. Also if we get beat all over then why did we take your precious despise from you? Talk about turtling, complain about island? You ran to the bridge 1st level and fielded it and sat there with necros. We took it from you and finished it. If your guild is so good then why did you lose a bridge choke point? That is the easiest possible place to defend, and you had like 10 necros on too. You all are just awful. Talk about propoganda, if you are so good want to put 100 mil on a mage field fight? I know there will be no response other than [censored] talk to this offer cause you are scared. I will gladly hire a broker to do this if you are willing. Any comeback for that one?

[Delaro]

Actually..no Grav and Pub dont always take the scrolls out that is any vet. All are accounted for and rolled on if it is worth rolling on. So where is this stealing crap you seem to be using as a crutch? Every single spawn I have been on everything was 100% accountable, I xfered alot of 120's off this shard in a little time frame and I did that knowing I rolled on them. If they still did or ever did the things you say BTH would be a much smaller guild than it is now.

[Larisa]

Um..*pokes head into thread* I really hate posting on this thread...but I had to. I'm sorry to inform you but what Ivana says is true. I remember hearing from SEVERAL people while I was still in the guild how Pub would "hold on to" the high end 120's so his "Leet" PvP'rs would be scrolled out. You hear Pub always talk about how much gold he has...all the time...for years....and you can say "Oh we do spawns all day, we shard trade our scrolls" Which is all fine and good....but after not only SEEING it....(Yes I had a snooper check Pub's pack ALOT at Harrowers unbeknownst to him...sneaky Larisa!) And also HEARING it from several of his Ephors.....I know the truth.

But I always said, it's his guild...he can do what he wants. If you want to be in a guild with a leader like that, more power to you. I only stayed for the gold and scrolls....and the few friends I had there. I wanted to quit but didnt' want to give Pub the satisfaction http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif So let him steal from you...wasn't only him either....but I'm sure Delaro that if you are a "higher-up" Or Pub considers you one of his "Better" PvP'rs, then you are doing it to.

All I can say is a big THANK YOU to Pub for booting me...and an even bigger Thank you to Ivana for finally coming to his senses, it's nice to be among friends and REAL people who don't feel the need to steal from each other.

*waves and disappears from thread*

[slipperywhenwet]

I have been on the shard 1 week, and have had BTH turn in 120 magerys, bushido's, evals, every high end scroll. I am not worried at all about them as allies, they are great about scrolls.

Yeah Right,... and you know I got some prime ocean front property in Arizona! and, and, I even sell it to ya real Cheap! Oh yeah I just remembered that one day in Band camp! la la la te DA!! [censored]!

[slipperywhenwet]

FL/D is never allowed to talk [censored] again. After getting owned by us all day long, they have to wait til 3am in order to pop their harrower. That is just pathetic. FL is never allowed to claim they are a dominant guild when they have to resort to sneaking in 3am harrowers.

[The Red Knight]

We'll do harrowers whenever we want to son. But please do try to stop us. First one you came with a huge force and got beat down HARD, latest one you didn't even have the balls to try.

You showed your bravery by waiting till it was over then trying to sneak in to pick up gold left on the ground after it was over. Which was nice, because then we got your insurance gold too.

[Ivana Killalot]

Tuesday, Wednsday and Thursday we completed 5-7 despises each day In the middle of the day. Not including what we do when our primetimers log in later at night 8pmpac-midnight pac). Some people forget that the rest of the world isnt on eastern time zone. Its good to see TBA will make great lap dogs for BTH. Pub has already got them trained well.

PS Sit ubu, sit....good TBA

[slipperywhenwet]

Rofl i know how many despise you got done over the last 4 days, that is zero until about 2am pst. Ivana you are delusional. Red Knight you had to wait for us to log of to pop a harrower, that doesnt make you good, it makes you pathetic. You all know how bad you have been losing, I have seen the icq's between my gm and people in your guild so its time to stop lying to yourself. FL/D is a second class guild, you cant beat us unless you wait til 2am when most of our people log. Primetime we all know who wins, the same people that have been winning all week long. Which is exactly why everytime we kill you all of you whine, either as ghost or in icq. Well i guess you need to get good at something else like propoganda cause we all know you arent good enough to compete in game.

[Delaro]

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Rofl i know how many despise you got done over the last 4 days, that is zero until about 2am pst. Ivana you are delusional. Red Knight you had to wait for us to log of to pop a harrower, that doesnt make you good, it makes you pathetic. You all know how bad you have been losing, I have seen the icq's between my gm and people in your guild so its time to stop lying to yourself. FL/D is a second class guild, you cant beat us unless you wait til 2am when most of our people log. Primetime we all know who wins, the same people that have been winning all week long. Which is exactly why everytime we kill you all of you whine, either as ghost or in icq. Well i guess you need to get good at something else like propoganda cause we all know you arent good enough to compete in game.

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As stated by G!B on the Pac forum and I have posted many times FL will not fight unless they have a numbers advantage. Last night the ~D~/FL allaince proved this when they lost a desipse with a even numbers fight and was no where to be found for a good 2 hours. So now its time for the 5 dark circle guys to crawl on the forum and Zerg this post once agian. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I made a little Origin pvp flash.


Origin Flash (http://users.lmi.net/~noodle/netathene/guilds/Origin/OriginPvP.swf)

All I see there is 10+ necros at a choke point, always with at least twice the numbers on your side then the dead body on ground. Except for that screenie at island. But we all know even if you tried like 10 times, you have never, ever won an island. You got whiped out just after that screenie you took. From server up to 2 am, you guys cant do anything. Damn, you dont take a screenie of the entrance of fire dungeon, all choked up, you have to be asshamed and hope nobody finds out that you do this useless crap unskilled choking point thing!

[Delaro]

What do you expect from FL? here is a quote from one of there so called elite.

Deathclaw posted: <blockquote><hr>

we can't pvp, just whither.

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I don't think they deny being a choke point guild or having to rely on outnumbering in order to compete, the actions they took prove that.

[2Bad4U]

Delaro...lol enuf said.

and to the no name bth or one of thier pet allies.... I have no trouble with any of you yet.. ever.

What my bows and spells dont collect for me my pets do.. lol in front of blighted for over 5 minutes I farmed your all star team.. lol ten bears 4 times...ahahahahaha and none of them a rez kill, fear?? lol , chen...ahahaha dead puppy eh?? the list goes on and on.. you know who you are... heck .. we all do, I was calling out the kills in t/s while the people were doing thier millisante.... and laughing at your folly.
when I was finally killed I died knowing my pets took one more, and thats after i killed the fool that poisoned me.

you know why you fled GL.. and to that other lippy nobody, you know why you FLED pac ("i...um...didnt flee..I uh...just wanted to see the game in color")

your a true legend, now go lay down next to your dish and get used to viewing the game in greyscale. cause the beat down stick is gettin even bigger.

and as to the bored people we had who did a harrower... lol its wrong for them to do one at 3 am but when you get your early am oaks taken its different?? princess, stop now, you will look as silly here as you did on pac. try fleeing to another shard.. or maybe just loggin in dead to save cash.

and please do not have the audicity (look it up on websters ) to talk about choke points and defenses...you asked for a field fight, so we tried to give you one.. but you were too busy cowering on island to notice...or you did and had not the sack to come and donate insurance).

Actually I died twice. Which is pale in comparison to the many times I have killed you but I’m sure I'll see you again soon when you come out of hiding and you will go back to calling for help when you see me on screen as usual. Also moments later I was rezed and we proceeded to clean up the area after that I hadn't seen one FL for about two hours. At least speak the truth when you mention my name.

[2Bad4U]

I died once, and I was the only fl on my map in the area...lol I killed all you easy insurance types over and over again, and if thats the best you can do then I have to say what EVERYONE else knows, your board warrioring is as awful as your field fighting, but dont worry, after a few more lessons at the hands of our alliance your pathetic rag tag group of house hiding cast offs and jokes will probably be twice the pvpers you are today, which still unfortunately, leaves you at the bottom of the ladder.

It's official, we have ran off D and FL from this shard. Or at least they dont log on regular hours anymore. We did an undisputed harrower at 7 pm pac time. From 7.30 to 10 i have been walking on my peacer from luna, trying to sell that other 20 mage i got here this morning, to Fel Yew. No D's or FL's to be found. I beleive that for now on, they will only come sneak some spawns/harrowers after 2 am, when their complete incapacity to compete will not be as obvious. Ho, they did come on early afternoon with their wither team to try to crash our Despise. I could not take one screenshot of all of them dead because if the coke point breaks, they all haul ass. So their bodies were all over despise dungeon. Here ya go:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/FINGERS_2007/d7.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/FINGERS_2007/d8.jpg

[Delaro]

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I died once, and I was the only fl on my map in the area...lol I killed all you easy insurance types over and over again, and if thats the best you can do then I have to say what EVERYONE else knows, your board warrioring is as awful as your field fighting, but dont worry, after a few more lessons at the hands of our alliance your pathetic rag tag group of house hiding cast offs and jokes will probably be twice the pvpers you are today, which still unfortunately, leaves you at the bottom of the ladder.

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There are 3 problems with the chud you just spewed.
1. You play a tamer.... a.k.a "All Kill" no skill
2. You have to hide behide a much bigger "Blue" alliance to compete which has to be late in the night to boot.
3. Your in FL.. which isnt know for being kings of PvP rather kings of the Zerg you have no room to smack talk about skills.

There is a reason why FL is on Pac.. it is dead and you are about 1/3 the size you use to be or have you forgot about EFL and all the other dung piles that have been crushed of other shards.

[2Bad4U]

I probably have more macros to keep on top of than you and your insurance donating toons will ever have.. but its ok, as long as you keep paying insurance ill keep paying attention.

I just though that after chasing you all over the shards you would know your place in the food chain is not wholly dependant on your toon itself, but the person behind it, in which case your well overmatched.

so by all means please keep typing drivel, it gives us a great laugh, just like that time you pretended you could pvp.......that was priceless....

oh wait.. it had a price.. lol 3600 gold was deposited in my bank i believe ... could have been more or less, your not all that memorable. Maybe you should just donate your money to the "kegamoto" fund for pots to be given out to victorious members of our alliance.

I think your boss pubby said it best when he said..Kal ort Por..
kal ort por...kal ort por...OooOOooOOooooOOoooOoo.

And you were easy on pac too for someone who talks so much smack.. what do you even play now? a hiding begar with armslore, item identify and perhaps enough magery to recall like your leader?

[Kissey]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/KisseyUO/ORIGIN/UO0040.jpg
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http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/KisseyUO/ORIGIN/UO0011-2.jpg

[imported_Chaucer of TS]

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3. Your in FL.. which isnt know for being kings of PvP rather kings of the Zerg you have no room to smack talk about skills.

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I've really tried to stay out of this thread lately but a BTH member saying this about anybody else is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

[Delaro]

I take it you havent played on other shards? Whom siad BTH is the only guild I am in?


As for 2badIsuck Your bug gets more kills than you which means you get 0 from it so keep the smack a coming VII.. I mean 2badIsuck. Congrats on having a bunch of macros.. Im impressed now how about a sig that isnt for the color blind?


Geez can't you feel the love in the thread. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[2Bad4U]

I was asked about my sig in another thread.. lol
My girlfriend made it for me, she has moving chars in hers, she can make absolutly amazing sigs, but I convinced her to make a outrageous, tacky, trashy sig, to poperly represent me. Because I'll always be trash, my only goal is to be rich, successful trash...cause its good to have a goal.

Yes, my bug gets the majority of the $$$ or my mare, but I use the moving special on my heavy and mindblast to get a bunch of money each day.

And Im sorry you suck so badly (I am going only on what you posted in your above missive thjis is not in any way meant as a personal attack), however they say admitting you have a problem is half the battle. some day you too may kill fools like we do. or you can emulate others and just recall away if your deathstrike doesnt stop someone. that route seems to be very benificial in game as you get access to scrolls, items, and guild funds that your would never be capable of ammassing yourself, and should you sell enough of them on ebay, you can almost make up for getting terminated for flaking at every job you have ever had, though gods forbid the totally imiginary guild in question breaks up then you had better learn to say "would you like fries with that". unless you graduated college with a degree ... such as doctor, or psycologist ......but what are the odds of that.

ah well, back to the grind... of my ever so humble daily existance.

(please disregard any spelling errors as I am a product of the public school system).

And try to remember, I have a caustic wit, I am aggressive, and I like to horse arround, this game is nothing more to me than an outlet, one of many, I mean no person any real ill will just because we board warrior, or because thier pixel kills my pixel.

If my comments offend an individual please message me to explain and I promise to NEVER post the message, I wil edit my post if I missed an angle that caused someone real hardship.

[2Bad4U]

I know its been a few hours since I talked some pvp smack but...... thanks so much to all the hardworking, insurance donating BTH who worked the demon spawn at Khaldun for us.. and youll all sleep better knowing this scroll is in my hands.



http://users.lmi.net/~noodle/Origin/120eval.gif

[teh popo]

<blockquote><hr>


I D-Robed FX twice and went laughing at him.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do stealthing dexers feel a need to talk about pvp ? Go hide and feel like you matter, babe. I'm sure someone else is stealthing around caring.

[teh popo]

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FL is never allowed to claim they are a dominant guild when they have to resort to sneaking in 3am harrowers.

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Didnt TBA leave baja because that shard was dead when you guys were active? Wasn't your "active time" approximately 3am ? What happened there bucko ?


WAITAMINITE !!! I know ! You didnt have BTH to ally on baja... Looks like you just needed 250+ allies so that you could play a little earlier on in the day. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif


TBA must be internet slang for "hypocrite". AMIRITE?

[Delaro]

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I was asked about my sig in another thread.. lol
My girlfriend made it for me, she has moving chars in hers, she can make absolutly amazing sigs, but I convinced her to make a outrageous, tacky, trashy sig, to poperly represent me. Because I'll always be trash, my only goal is to be rich, successful trash...cause its good to have a goal.

Yes, my bug gets the majority of the $$$ or my mare, but I use the moving special on my heavy and mindblast to get a bunch of money each day.

And Im sorry you suck so badly (I am going only on what you posted in your above missive thjis is not in any way meant as a personal attack), however they say admitting you have a problem is half the battle. some day you too may kill fools like we do. or you can emulate others and just recall away if your deathstrike doesnt stop someone. that route seems to be very benificial in game as you get access to scrolls, items, and guild funds that your would never be capable of ammassing yourself, and should you sell enough of them on ebay, you can almost make up for getting terminated for flaking at every job you have ever had, though gods forbid the totally imiginary guild in question breaks up then you had better learn to say "would you like fries with that". unless you graduated college with a degree ... such as doctor, or psycologist ......but what are the odds of that.

ah well, back to the grind... of my ever so humble daily existance.

(please disregard any spelling errors as I am a product of the public school system).

And try to remember, I have a caustic wit, I am aggressive, and I like to horse arround, this game is nothing more to me than an outlet, one of many, I mean no person any real ill will just because we board warrior, or because thier pixel kills my pixel.

If my comments offend an individual please message me to explain and I promise to NEVER post the message, I wil edit my post if I missed an angle that caused someone real hardship.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you mean failure from a public school system that would make more sense. It's okay to admit your mid 20ish still living with your mommy because you spend all your time playing UO and can't hold a job, I understand that because you are trying to do in game what you can never do in RL. I understand perfectly that you feel the need to take every post on all the forums and turn them into a personal assaults, your current position reflects why that is and you have my deepest pitty. Do you wish to continue this? I can fire just as much BS back as you but with less frequency as I do work full time and have a family that is more important than a game but don’t worry I’ll always be around during what BTH considers prime time.. You know.. The hours the ~D~ alliance FL meat sled avoids every night.

With over 2000 counts, you bet i feel like I matter! And you bet it's pvp, the last I checked, I'm a player (Player Vs Player). I ran so many of you guys in your house while I'm not hiding. I rarely die 1v1 and i usually kill the best players if they arent 120 parry/wrestling with high dci. Finally, with the number of stealthers that you guys have, I think you have no place to talk smack about the template.

My utility? I sneak in your spawn and inform my guys when it's time to rush in, at fights I find the rez point drobe a couple and completely destroy the calm in your vent; and I slow down the warping speeders by making them walk. When I was on atlantic, in DEI, I remember finding PVP's rez point. The rezzer, in need of mana, would give rez but not heal or invis. He got 4 players up, including their gm. I used lightning arrow and killed all 4 with one arrow, and proceeded to kill the rezzer. They all left the dungeon and never camed back.

Unlike some of you brainless monkeys, I dont copy templates to have the flavor of the month template on each publish. I'm not a bok bok 4/6 ****ty tamer, I'm not a deathstrike dp mage. I am a stealther and am quite good at it. I use 200 skill points for hiding and stealthing, wich takes away alot of offensive and defencive possibility. I also have a red dp mage and red a necro dexer. I don't pvp on blues and I dont run in houses. I got all the way up to night of justice on a all 40 resists suit necro bard with no eval while killing you newbs, mainly 1vs1. The day your template is half as usefull for your guild then mine is, come talk to me big boy. Owned irl, kthks!

We left the shard because there was not much to do anymore there and our beloved gm decided that it would be fun to come put the smack on you... And he was damn right, it's fun as hell!!! The alliance with BTH was not planned and the first two players I killed here were red BTH's scouting T2A. If you brainless hypocrit go look under the tag community/guilds on the uo website, you'll find out that being allied with D, you are part of a 493 member alliance. And unlike you no honnor fools, none of us dropped our tag to grab the tag of our ally. The total numbers of our alliance: 379. Why would you idiot even talk about us allying when you are such in a big zerg. See you rats come out of hiding at midnight!

[hi im shadow]

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FL is never allowed to claim they are a dominant guild when they have to resort to sneaking in 3am harrowers.

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Didnt TBA leave baja because that shard was dead when you guys were active? Wasn't your "active time" approximately 3am ? What happened there bucko ?


WAITAMINITE !!! I know ! You didnt have BTH to ally on baja... Looks like you just needed 250+ allies so that you could play a little earlier on in the day. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif


TBA must be internet slang for "hypocrite". AMIRITE?

[/ QUOTE ]

TC was scared to play
sry we left
guess u guys came out of ur hole?

Does anyone know who Delaro is? I mean, I don't see any indication of who exactly he is. I am quite sure he is a member of BTH, but other than that he seems like a typical trash talker without an identity. Anyone can tell who I am from the PVP pics thread, obviously. Maybe he is Chen or something, sounds about right, always hiding but causes a bunch of fuss.

[2Bad4U]

If you knew who I am in real life you would have to take back those words, I have bragged enough to make everyone sick on the fl forums under Ferre my old chars name. I am 39 and I do not live on the same coast as my family, more like 2000 miles away from my family, and my retail stores, my arena, and friends I used to hang with, but I moved here to be with my girlfriend and I still fly back and forth a lot to visit my family, friends, and business.

I decided to get a job after being in california for 3 months and so far its fun, having not had to get up for anyone elses schedule for over 9 years its kinda enlightening to do so now, and it gives me a strange sense of pride. But Im sure your much richer in friends, cash , and popularity than my ever so humble self can ever hope to be, so Ill just sit here and cry in my rum punch because you dont love me anymore. hmmmm or not. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

ps - I forgot how cool it was to get a paycheck with someone elses sig on it.