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vapd3317

10-29-2007, 12:18 AM

Yup,...I have moved on to other on line games. Not waiting around in dead cities, and I absolutely refuse to delete a sim just to go to TC3. (Don't even say that I could get a free trial and go to TC3 with a new sim.) I'm not desiring to deal with the updates and downloads of switching back and forth from TC3 and production cities.

I also am not the least bit interested in hanging out with the attitudes I observe on here from people who respond to honest concerns from regular players. The constant "Quit whining and complaining and come visit us at the pub in TC3" from players who supposedly support the devs and want us to stick around, has only driven a rift between themselves and many veteran players.

With the exception of one or two players who posted helpful information out here, other than "Read the blog or Wiki", the majority of responses are rude and demeaning.

So,...I will just check the posts every now and then. Log in to keep the account active but just visit my property and then log off. Then come February or March,...will see how things have progressed.

So do your worst,...delete all that I have (or not), Take all my fake money (or not), Heck...I don't care if ya even change the gender of my sims. All that matters not to me. For you see,...Im not excited at all about any changes to the game, whether they turn out good or bad. So for all you "cheerleaders"....lay off the caffeine. You wanna see me get excited?...give me a winning Lottery ticket.

oh and for the comments of,.."If bored, give your simmie a job"....oh YAY !!...just what I want to do....have a day off from work so I can play a game where I pretend to be at work....wow.

Y'all do what ya feel you need to do. As for me,...I'm checking out for a few months.

imported_DutchAmerica

10-29-2007, 02:22 AM

The game is what you make of it.

As for 'supporting' the devs, I think those of us that are supporting these changes have finally understood that it this way or there is nothing. It's either accept that the game has to change for it's survival or complain about it.

We ALL put up with inconveniences in the game. We ALL have problems here and there. Obviously you know what it's like to wait for the merge. ALL of us are waiting for the merge. Some of us are trying to make the best of it and having 'other' players throw that stuff in our faces none stop is just well.....annoying too. Can you understand that?

As for 'when is the merge'? I would say it's probably not far away. Looking at what has been done/completed....the login has been updated, the city map looks nearly completed. I don't know about anyone else, but it doesn't look long at all. Once they merge the test cities and have that all worked out, the other cities won't be long behind because it's a priority for the devs to get everything merged as soon as humanly possible.

I do realized that the recent EA outage hasn't helped anything either so it may push the timetable back.

Patience is really needed right now more then ever. WE the players can't change anything and constantly nagging at us still isn't going to make us be able to change anything.

mariotso

10-29-2007, 05:07 AM

i honestly don't think even the devs themselves know right now, executioner 47. if they did they would tell us.

i think the growing frustration over technical issues, lack of weekend support, and players growing bored with the pace of change, its time they consider letting us play for free. (http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/sims/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=678491&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

imported_DutchAmerica

10-29-2007, 06:24 AM

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i honestly don't think even the devs themselves know right now, executioner 47. if they did they would tell us.

i think the growing frustration over technical issues, lack of weekend support, and players growing bored with the pace of change, its time they consider letting us play for free. (http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/sims/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=678491&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

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Better yet, why don't they just hand us our pink slips and yank the plug? (I'm being sarcastic with the comment)

I'm sorry to point out the obvious, but the recent 'technical issues' should actually be expected considering the big changes being implimented in the game at the moment.

TSO isn't forcing anyone to continue to pay for the game. Players can just stop paying and wait to come back until the freebie accounts are available.

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 06:34 AM

Yep, like Lee said, vote with your wallet.

10-29-2007, 06:37 AM

Letting us play for free, is completely counter productive, when they are trying so hard to prove to EA Games that this can become a financially viable and self-supporting game. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But there is certainly nothing damaging to those efforts, with giving us, the patient players, extra skill locks for our troubles! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hint, hint.......

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 06:37 AM

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 06:40 AM

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Letting us play for free, is completely counter productive, when they are trying so hard to prove to EA Games that this can become a financially viable and self-supporting game. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But there is certainly nothing damaging to those efforts, with giving us, the patient players, extra skill locks for our troubles! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Wouldn't extra skill locks kill off the only game we have left, skilling (yawn)?

10-29-2007, 06:50 AM

It seems to be the one thing everyone cherishes.....and it does not undermine the bottom line for the basic goal and deadline the Devs are working with.

Plus, I have never heard anyone say that they were quiting the game because they had met all their skill goals......http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/icons/more/doh.gif

But....we drift from the topic......

The only timeline we have on the merge, is that the TC/TC3 merge, will be the first step.....everything else is flexible, and depends on whatever bugs and glitches they have to deal with as they go along.

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 06:55 AM

Well the date will keep getting pushed back if they do attempt to fix all the bugs and glitches they have created now. I would hope the login issue would take priority over the merge, I mean what good would a merged city be if you can't get into it?

imported_DutchAmerica

10-29-2007, 07:00 AM

LOL locks wouldn't hurt for sure, but hearing all the things in the pipeline, we may not be so all absorbed in skilling so much in the future.

However, I kinda think it's totally awesome for the 'non' beta founders to be able to get EAland 'founder' status.

How often do players have the opportunity this far into the a game to become founders?

I know everyone is getting antsy for the merge. It kinda feels like Xmas eve....all the anticipation.

And who knows, like I'm not going to hold my breath or anything but, who says the devs won't give us a little special something for hanging in through the merge? (Like I said, I'm not holding my breath.) But you know, Luc doesn't sound like too bad a guy and he sounds appreciative to us for sticking it out. So who knows....

I realize right now we all want something new to play with, but the thing is....anything new brought into the old cities is one more complication to add problems to our upcoming merge.

(The log in issue very well could be cleared up with the merge of TC3/TC. At this moment we have 4 different patches in the pipeline to go to various cities in TSO. Trying to keep all those patches sorted out and compatible with the log in has to be as fun as trying to hold a wet cat. There's BV, Production Cities, TC and TC3.)

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 07:13 AM

The login issue should be the priority right now, many players cannot play at all let alone patch back and forth. I know you have read the complaints and issues revolving around this and you also know a few new players have said to hell with it before ever being able to play. That being said, the login issue is a must have fix.

10-29-2007, 07:30 AM

Th topic of this thread is *not* log in or patch issues........http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/icons/more/squint.gif

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 07:36 AM

Yes I agree but in order FOR THE MERGE TO TAKE PLACE THE LOGIN MUST BE FIXED FIRST. THE MERGE CAN WAIT!

mariotso

10-29-2007, 07:49 AM

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i honestly don't think even the devs themselves know right now, executioner 47. if they did they would tell us.

i think the growing frustration over technical issues, lack of weekend support, and players growing bored with the pace of change, its time they consider letting us play for free. (http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/sims/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=678491&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

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ditto kir, for your overuse of that image!

has this been discussed to death in another thread that i missed? perhaps you could kindly provide me with the link if so.

mariotso

10-29-2007, 07:50 AM

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Th topic of this thread is *not* log in or patch issues........http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/icons/more/squint.gif

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but your above reply re: extra skill locks is?

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 08:10 AM

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i honestly don't think even the devs themselves know right now, executioner 47. if they did they would tell us.

i think the growing frustration over technical issues, lack of weekend support, and players growing bored with the pace of change, its time they consider letting us play for free. (http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/sims/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=678491&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

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ditto kir, for your overuse of that image!

has this been discussed to death in another thread that i missed? perhaps you could kindly provide me with the link if so.

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That image says more than words ever could.

Your link is being way over used as well, the topic of this thread is merge date not free play.

The merge date is going to have to be wait untill those that want to play can actually play the game we have now, not months from now.

10-29-2007, 08:17 AM

I must have been the only one listening when Lee stated something about the merge in the pub. He stated last week that the TC & TC3 merge was aiming to happen within the month and to have have all the cities merged within 10 weeks. He said this is what they are aiming for. So they are hoping for mid December to be done with the merge.

Now, I will remind you, this is what he said they are AIMING for, it was not a definite.

mariotso

10-29-2007, 08:28 AM

while the title may have been merge date, my link and reply is in response to his statment, and i quote:

It seems that everyone and everything in all cities are in a hold/pause mode at this time in anticipation of the pending merger and it's getting pretty boring.

i am in full agreement that the regular cities are boring, even if you could get into them on a weekend when there is no technical support. hence... (http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/sims/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=678491&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

10-29-2007, 08:43 AM

Mario, let me help you out here with something that Polly said:

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<font color="red">Letting us play for free, is completely counter productive, when they are trying so hard to prove to EA Games that this can become a financially viable and self-supporting game.</font> http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But there is certainly nothing damaging to those efforts, with giving us, the patient players, extra skill locks for our troubles! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hint, hint.......

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mariotso

10-29-2007, 08:55 AM

oh wait, i get it! lol

10-29-2007, 09:34 AM

I'm sure they will merge as soon as possible. If you ask me trying to make it possible for everyone to get into TC3 was a huge waste of time and a big mistake. Thats where all the problems started. Again I say be careful what you wish for...errr demand.

10-29-2007, 09:43 AM

BRAVO NIKKI!!!! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Especially on the demand part!!

imported_herk1287

10-29-2007, 09:47 AM

right i agree tc3 made normal citieis dead with talk of merge

imported_DutchAmerica

10-29-2007, 09:52 AM

Keep It Real

10-29-2007, 10:00 AM

MandiK

10-29-2007, 10:27 AM

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right i agree tc3 made normal citieis dead with talk of merge

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Yea it sure did. I know everyone plays differently, but I dont understand why everyone stopped playing just because the money would be wiped. That must be the only reason most the players play. Its sad, I miss AV. No one is ever there anymore (if I can even get updated to go there). I dont get why everyone would stop 'playing' because the merge was announced. Skills are always good, since we can bring those with us. I know its 'boring', but the game is what you make of it. The players ARE the game. it is up to US to make it more interesting while we wait & watch all the changes http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif I have seen some really awesome houses in TC3 where people just PLAY, not worry about being millionaires or having every rare in the game, but where we can just hang out, meet people, friend link, play with objects that usually get ignored and just have fun.

I miss the game before all this talk really. I cant wait til everything is running smooth and players are back.

10-29-2007, 12:02 PM

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I'm sure they will merge as soon as possible. If you ask me trying to make it possible for everyone to get into TC3 was a huge waste of time and a big mistake. Thats where all the problems started. Again I say be careful what you wish for...errr demand.

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So you think it was a big mistake to allow the players who weren't able to get to TC3 the chance to. You say that, as someone who has been there in the front lines of it all for months. Do you not realize that the many players who felt left out deserved the chance to see what all the fuss is about, the chance to meet your beloved developers, the chance to find out information for themselves? Do you not realize how dead all the production cities are? Do you not think those players too, should be able to play in the only city that has people? It would have been nice had the patch worked, it would have been nice if they would bother to address the issues still troubling so many players, if they had gotten it right before they headed off to a party... but still many are left out of being able to patch, some can't even get the game to run at all. It would still be nice if they would bother to acknowledge there is a major problem for many instead of ignoring the fact.

10-29-2007, 12:16 PM

Let's be sure to stick to the topic of this thread which isn't a rehashing of every other thread in City Hall.

10-29-2007, 12:27 PM

Hear is what I said earlier in case anyone missed it. This is what I have learned as far as a merge date:

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I must have been the only one listening when Lee stated something about the merge in the pub. He stated last week that the TC & TC3 merge was aiming to happen within the month and to have have all the cities merged within 10 weeks. He said this is what they are aiming for. So they are hoping for mid December to be done with the merge.

Now, I will remind you, this is what he said they are AIMING for, it was not a definite.

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Executioner_47

10-30-2007, 07:54 PM

Alot of us didn't just play the game for the money/simoleans,I sure didn't because I owned a casino and I gave away more money than I ever gained, The enjoyment of people playing for the money/simoleans was that it gave players an outlet to do something other skilling ourselves to death which bored me beyond belief. It allowed us to put on casino and other property events and aside from the giving away of money/simoleans,it was fun and everyone had good times.My casino was never empty as I offered not only slots but paints as well and some people just came by to have some fun with old friends and make new friends.I also own a store in AV and it's useless for me and other store owners to sell either crafts or catalogue items for simoleans,as we all know that they will be wiped away.

Now having said all that,I'm going to stick it out because I've converted my casino to a nightclub and just waiting for the merger as it relates to what I will and will not be able to do in the way of putting on contests for simoleans and the like.It's my hope that once the merger is complete,everyone will return and so will the fun.

imported_SimTripps

10-31-2007, 05:11 AM

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oh and for the comments of,.."If bored, give your simmie a job"....oh YAY !!...just what I want to do....have a day off from work so I can play a game where I pretend to be at work....wow.

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ROFL! This is how I feel too, and the whole 'fixing the economy' issue. Crikey - my sims make less in their jobs than I do in my r.l. job lol... I game sims for fun and vicarious fantasy. If I want all my sims to be millionaires, so be it. If others want to do it the hard way via jobs, so be it too - all the power to 'em... http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 04:20 PM

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I know everyone plays differently, but I dont understand why everyone stopped playing just because the money would be wiped. That must be the only reason most the players play. Its sad, I miss AV. No one is ever there anymore (if I can even get updated to go there). I dont get why everyone would stop 'playing' because the merge was announced. Skills are always good, since we can bring those with us. I know its 'boring', but the game is what you make of it. The players ARE the game. it is up to US to make it more interesting while we wait & watch all the changes http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif I have seen some really awesome houses in TC3 where people just PLAY, not worry about being millionaires or having every rare in the game, but where we can just hang out, meet people, friend link, play with objects that usually get ignored and just have fun.

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You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. Stop your cheerleading and THINK for a minute! Everyone has stopped playing because the upcoming merge/wipe has SEVERELY limited our game play. Like it or not, a lot of this game is about money. Think about it....we have stores, games, crafts, building, and money objects. Stores are closed because no one wants to sell anything right now since there is no point in selling stuff for simoleans since they will be wiped. We can build until the merge/wipe, but can't visit stores. Which means we can only buy items from the catalog...we can't buy stuff from stores like crafts, rares, or clothes since they're closed..so there is no visiting stores. Games/casinos are closed because even if they don't do payouts, there is no point in the owners collecting money from the objects when money will be wiped anyway. So you can't even go to one of those to just have fun and hang out with friends. No one is selling fruit anymore...No point in doing money objects because who wants to gain more simoleans from the money objects just to lose them in the wipe? Yeah, the players ARE the game, BUT we can only do so much with what we have...and right now, with the pending merge/wipe, we don't have much to work with. Lately I've only been doing pet pulls...and there is only so much of that a person can do before falling asleep from boredom. Yeah, skilling is good but it's boring as heck...and that's about the only thing left to do except sit around and chat. Yippee! I can do that in a free chat room. And with the wipe coming, in EA Land, that will be about all I'll be doing anyway, so why bother doing it now? As for linking, you might like having tons of links, but I prefer not to link with every sim I meet. I like getting to know a person well before I link with them...not link just so I can show off that my sim has a ton of green links/friends. My ego isn't that big.

And if you say "The game is what you make of it" ONE MORE TIME, I'm going to vomit! Change the record already! I'm just as sick of hearing that as you are of hearing complaints about the wipe/merge. You aren't even trying to understand anyone's point. You just get your pom-poms out and cheer for the changes all the time. If you are happy, fine, but at least have the decency to respect those of us with different views and who aren't happy.

11-01-2007, 04:59 PM

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And if you say "The game is what you make of it" ONE MORE TIME, I'm going to vomit! Change the record already! I'm just as sick of hearing that as you are of hearing complaints about the wipe/merge. You aren't even trying to understand anyone's point. You just get your pom-poms out and cheer for the changes all the time. If you are happy, fine, but at least have the decency to respect those of us with different views and who aren't happy.

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Look at what you just wrote.......really read it. See the irony in it? This is a whole pot/kettle thing, because not only have you been playing the same record virtually since you started posting here, saying the same things time and time again, you don't seem to respect the fact that other people see things differently either. I say 'you don't SEEM' because I don't know really if you do or not, I can only read what you post here, which might or might not be a total representation of how you actually feel. Some people are better at expressing their thoughts and ideas thoroughly than others are. I just don't understand how you can tell her what you just said after posting that long post telling her why she's wrong and you're right. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

If anybody here is unhappy it's because they are choosing to be, plain and simple. And no, I don't mean just the option you have of leaving. There are many ways to cope/deal with the changes that are taking place and are going to take place, and they've all been listed here. Making the best of what I think most everybody can agree is a bad situation (the wipe) is not a crime, and its not something that deserves belittling and/or being made fun of, and it's not being a 'cheerleader'. Mandi has in the past voiced her opinion on plenty of things with the game that she disagrees with, but usually when she does she does it in a clear, concise and mature way, being careful not to be beligerent and get into the 'jumping up and down' part. Just because she happens to either be happy now, or at least realizes that she can't change anything so she might as well roll with it if she wants to stay around, doesn't mean that she has never had anything negative to say about the game.

imported_Dali Dalinza

11-01-2007, 05:13 PM

I haven't been in TC3 for a while, but I do log in to TC. What are you up to these days, Carrie, that keeps you happy while we wait for the merge? I know how you feel about those who grumble, but let us in on your own game plan.

I loved Mandi's tour report the other day http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I am resigned to gritting my teeth and enduring boredom -- which TSO players are very good at -- until we see what comes with the merge surge. I know that bugs will proliferate, and that always causes excitement.

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11-01-2007, 05:23 PM

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IS THERE A POOL FOR WHEN THE FIRST MERGE HAPPENS? If not, let's start one. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Good idea...I pick Nov 21st. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

e: oops 2007 http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Peppie

11-01-2007, 05:53 PM

I pick Nov 28 cause Im sure we get CC before the merge http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 07:46 PM

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And if you say "The game is what you make of it" ONE MORE TIME, I'm going to vomit! Change the record already! I'm just as sick of hearing that as you are of hearing complaints about the wipe/merge. You aren't even trying to understand anyone's point. You just get your pom-poms out and cheer for the changes all the time. If you are happy, fine, but at least have the decency to respect those of us with different views and who aren't happy.

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Look at what you just wrote.......really read it. See the irony in it? This is a whole pot/kettle thing, because not only have you been playing the same record virtually since you started posting here, saying the same things time and time again, you don't seem to respect the fact that other people see things differently either. I say 'you don't SEEM' because I don't know really if you do or not, I can only read what you post here, which might or might not be a total representation of how you actually feel. Some people are better at expressing their thoughts and ideas thoroughly than others are. I just don't understand how you can tell her what you just said after posting that long post telling her why she's wrong and you're right. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

If anybody here is unhappy it's because they are choosing to be, plain and simple. And no, I don't mean just the option you have of leaving. There are many ways to cope/deal with the changes that are taking place and are going to take place, and they've all been listed here. Making the best of what I think most everybody can agree is a bad situation (the wipe) is not a crime, and its not something that deserves belittling and/or being made fun of, and it's not being a 'cheerleader'. Mandi has in the past voiced her opinion on plenty of things with the game that she disagrees with, but usually when she does she does it in a clear, concise and mature way, being careful not to be beligerent and get into the 'jumping up and down' part. Just because she happens to either be happy now, or at least realizes that she can't change anything so she might as well roll with it if she wants to stay around, doesn't mean that she has never had anything negative to say about the game.

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If you re-read my ENTIRE post, you will see that I was just explaining to her (albeit a bit hostile since I'm getting sick of the "everything is great" attitude) WHY people stopped playing now, pre-merge. AND I DID tell her (in the part you quoted even) that if she liked the changes, fine. Does that sound like I don't respect other's views? NO! Just the opposite. It wasn't an attack out of thin air. SHE said she didn't understand, so I explained it. I may have been expressing my same views, because they haven't changed, to defend myself when others post to me, but at least I don't repeat the same phrase like "the game is what you make of it" word for word like a record that is stuck EVERY TIME. And I most certainly DO respect other's views. And I NEVER said I was right and she was wrong. It was an explanation, plain and simple. I've even said before that if people like the changes, fine, it's their right to feel that way, but respect those of us who don't, which is not what she (or others) seem to be doing. THEY seem to be the ones saying that the ones who aren't happy ARE wrong...not MIGHT BE wrong or that we have a right to feel how we do....and we have NO right to feel how we do. We're the bad guys here, and I am getting tired of it. That is why I was getting hostile. AND FYI, I wasn't TRYING to be hostile..just very firm because she just wasn't understanding why people aren't playing now...

And before anyone says anything, yeah, the merge/wipe IS happening. There is NOTHING I can do about it....I GET THAT! I've gotten that from the beginning. But that doesn't mean I have to like it and don't have the right to say how I feel or that I don't have a right to post a response when people post a message like Mandi asking why people aren't playing now just because the wipe is coming. So everyone, please, PLEASE...I'm begging...STOP posting messages attacking/insulting those of us who are against the changes.

11-01-2007, 07:49 PM

You cant possibly be more sick of "everything is great" posts as I am of everything sucks posts. This is not an attack its my personal opinion.

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 07:54 PM

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*Asking in a very calm, sincere manner* Maybe I misunderstood something here, but a while back I read something about the fact that they couldn't give the production cities the same thing (as far as items) that they were giving TC3 or something like that, which is why they were merging into EALand. So if that's the case, wouldn't giving everyone CC BEFORE the merge kind of cancel out the need for the merge? Just curious. And this isn't a post to be sarcastic or smart or to criticize the merge in any way. I'm sincerely asking here. Did I misunderstand something?

Sativa L

11-01-2007, 08:39 PM

*shakes head and ignores most of the above*

Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 08:52 PM

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*shakes head and ignores most of the above*

Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

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You're ignoring a sincere, legitimate question? Seriously...I'm confused. It wasn't meant to be smart.

Keep It Real

11-01-2007, 09:09 PM

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*shakes head and ignores most of the above*

Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

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You're ignoring a sincere, legitimate question? Seriously...I'm confused. It wasn't meant to be smart.

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You might as well hang it up, I doubt you will ever get any sincere answers here anymore. It's turned into if your not a cheerleader than your going to be ganged up on by them as I am sure you have noticed by now. I said it before and I'll say it again, I FEEL THE PUBHEADS AND CHEERLEADERS ARE NOW DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD FOR THE GAME AND FUTURE OF TSO/EA LAND!!!!!

NightFlyer

11-01-2007, 09:16 PM

I believe she means CC in TC3 and not the production cities.

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 09:17 PM

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You might as well hang it up, I doubt you will ever get any sincere answers here anymore. It's turned into if your not a cheerleader than your going to be ganged up on by them as I am sure you have noticed by now. I said it before and I'll say it again, I FEEL THE PUBHEADS AND CHEERLEADERS ARE NOW DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD FOR THE GAME AND FUTURE OF TSO/EA LAND!!!!!

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*sigh* Agreed...Very sad. Well thank you for at least posting a civil message to me.

11-01-2007, 10:28 PM

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I haven't been in TC3 for a while, but I do log in to TC. What are you up to these days, Carrie, that keeps you happy while we wait for the merge? I know how you feel about those who grumble, but let us in on your own game plan.

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I've taken my own advice and been persuing other interests so that I don't drive myself insane like some others seem to have been doing. Playing TS2 some, but mostly playing on Pogo. I've had a pogo account for 5+ years, used it mostly for multi-tasking while skilling before since we all know skilling is the most boring thing and if you have nothing to do its even worse, cuz usually starting a conversation is choppy at best, getting answers when people return to the puter to hit the "I'm back" button while they vacuum, do the dishes, etc. etc. etc. Now I just play it more since the cutback of the money in TC3, and the production cities, as others have pointed out are pretty dead, or if not dead no challenge because houses are giving out 5k+ per jam payouts and such like that. I keep up religiously with the boards, and read the blog as much as I can, though this is the only place I actually post that is game related......other places I am a lurker.

So yeah, I practice what I preach. When I said it might be a good idea for people to diversify their interests, it wasn't just fluff. I've done it myself and I am ALOT happier and content. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif Pogo (http://www.pogo.com) has a free membership and a paid membership for those who are interested. Best plan for the paid membership is the yearly rate, pay it once and you're done for the year and get unlimited access and they only have minimal problems and scheduled downtime every Tues. morning around 6am EST when they do their maintenance and adding new stuff. Some weeks no new stuff gets added but most of the time something is added at least.....so I like it http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

11-01-2007, 10:31 PM

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*shakes head and ignores most of the above*

Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

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You're ignoring a sincere, legitimate question? Seriously...I'm confused. It wasn't meant to be smart.

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You might as well hang it up, I doubt you will ever get any sincere answers here anymore. It's turned into if your not a cheerleader than your going to be ganged up on by them as I am sure you have noticed by now. I said it before and I'll say it again, I FEEL THE PUBHEADS AND CHEERLEADERS ARE NOW DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD FOR THE GAME AND FUTURE OF TSO/EA LAND!!!!!

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And you feel that constant complaining, criticizing and pessism concerning the game and it's future is not harming the game? SOME of the 'pubheads' do seem to have formed their own clique, but my goodness cliques have been around on the boards and in game for LONG time, and yet here we still are. And it's not all of them....plus the pessimistic people lumped them into that clique by calling them cheerleaders and pubheads in the first place! What about that?

TKSpeedy1

11-01-2007, 10:32 PM

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I believe she means CC in TC3 and not the production cities.

[/ QUOTE ] Thanks....I think you just cleared up where my confusion lies. Thanks...much appreciated. I didn't realize they were talking about CC coming to TC3. My mistake.

Sativa L

11-02-2007, 04:53 AM

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You're ignoring a sincere, legitimate question? Seriously...I'm confused. It wasn't meant to be smart.

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I didn't state exactly what I choose to ignore.

My statement was not directed to anyone or any specific post.

I choose to ignore "most of the above" for my own reasons, as is my right. I do however believe that EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions, and have a right to post their opinions. It's more the tone of certain posts, not the actual complaints that gets to me.

I don't attend the pub often enough to be considered a "pubhead".

11-02-2007, 05:11 AM

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Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

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Great news! Can you tell me where you got that information, plz?

imported_Qute Pi

11-02-2007, 07:43 AM

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TSO isn't forcing anyone to continue to pay for the game. Players can just stop paying and wait to come back until the freebie accounts are available.

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No they aren't forcing us, however, it is still their responsibility to keep the game up and running for their paying subscribers. Just because it is changing doesn't give them an excuse to not care.
Its the same as giving IH gnomes for being down a week. If it wasn't their responsibility do you think they would have given subscribers a gift?

imported_DutchAmerica

11-02-2007, 07:50 AM

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TSO isn't forcing anyone to continue to pay for the game. Players can just stop paying and wait to come back until the freebie accounts are available.

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No they aren't forcing us, however, it is still their responsibility to keep the game up and running for their paying subscribers. Just because it is changing doesn't give them an excuse to not care.
Its the same as giving IH gnomes for being down a week. If it wasn't their responsibility do you think they would have given subscribers a gift?

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Don't mean to be argumentative with you.

Just that I would like to point out though that I've only had 1 day in the past months I wasn't able to play TSO at all.

I had 'some' problems with the login update last night but like a good little TSO'r....I always keep a back up folder 'just in case'. And even though I couldn't get into TC3, I was still able to stay up until way to late playing the game.

imported_Qute Pi

11-02-2007, 08:16 AM

well I'm here to argue and your the lucky one! :P JUST KIDDING!

actually I can see how 1 time is not a big deal. However in the past month I have had 5-8 days of not being able to play. So I believe this issue effects everyone differently. How, I don't know. And no I'm not threatening to quit because of that, I LOVE this game, but it is still their responsibility and telling people to quit and come back later isn't going to make things better. We are trying to gain subscribers, and I have had friends do just that, quit, and then get involved in another game, and trust me they have no intention of coming back to this game because they enjoy the new game. We don't want that to happen with even more players...

oh and Hi Dutch! :P Nothing personal, I hope you know! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif Your my favorite debater on here. lol

imported_DutchAmerica

11-02-2007, 08:32 AM

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oh and Hi Dutch! :P Nothing personal, I hope you know! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif Your my favorite debater on here. lol

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I wouldn't take it personal from my favorite debater either. I just need supply you with much more rum for those lemons you are getting.

But seriously, I do understand exactly what you are saying. This new 'download' they have created and are still working the bugs out on is actually looking very promising.

However, I do intent to keep my hand little folders saved on my external drive so should I get desperate. You don't wanna see me or be near me if I haven't played the game in a week.

imported_Qute Pi

11-02-2007, 08:36 AM

::pour rum here:: :P hehe
Yea i was looking at that program update. I am gonna wait a week before I switch just to make sure I can play this weekend lol.

Purdy

11-02-2007, 08:36 AM

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11-02-2007, 09:58 AM

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Be carefull what you say too Niki. Your true colors are shining thru. You really think its a waste of time trying to help everyone to get into TC3? As long as you can get in right - who cares about everyone else!!! How shelfish. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Hold on there. Everybody always *could* get into TC3. Some chose not to because of an archaeic comment Luc made. You could have gotten a new account to make a sim there, you could have deleted a sim to go there. What Niki is saying is that the devs took time out of their very limited time schedule to create that button to TC3, and she is absolutely correct when she says that that is when the problems started happening. Coincidence? Maybe. *shrugs* but from an objective point of view I see selfishness all over the place.

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 10:11 AM

11-02-2007, 10:42 AM

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Be carefull what you say too Niki. Your true colors are shining thru. You really think its a waste of time trying to help everyone to get into TC3? As long as you can get in right - who cares about everyone else!!! How shelfish. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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That is also the login that will be used for EA Land as per Lee. So are you saying it should not have been tested prior to EA Land opening? The TC3 button is no different than the EA Land button and patching over NEEDED to be tested on a bigger scale so ALL can get there when it opens. Looks like it was the right thing to do as MANY issues have been found by doing this and testing it. THE BIG PICTURE IS EVEN BIGGER THAN SOME THINK.

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Post merge we wont need a TC3 button, everyone will be in EA Land and those that choose to play TC3 will continue to do so, I doubt many will at that point choose to create sims in TC3. Taking time out of a busy schedule to make that proverbial button because some players arent willing to use workarounds to get there just may have been a mistake. Its certainly presented a host of issues that continue to delay the progression of the game. Was it necessary to test it? Yes absolutely, but looks to me like it was rushed to accomodate some players. Of course I'm not sitting around complaining about nothing "new and fun" being added to the game fast enough, but maybe just maybe they would have more time to work on new content if they werent besieged by issues created by prematurely making the login changes. After all the merge hasnt even started yet so were not in need of access to EA Land at this time. Oh and not being able to test is nothing new, many players over the years havent had sims in TC and couldnt test changes without deleting a sim or opening a new acct. Same as always those that choose to test do.

Tristan Lewis

11-02-2007, 11:02 AM

You need to open your EYES and not only read but COMPREHEND the first thing Lee stated after the button was released WAS THIS HAD TO BE DONE BEFORE BEFORE BEFORE EALAND COULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are we understanding yet?????????
Like said previously it had to be tested. Would you rather EALand launch day be here and NOONE be able to get in. Lee is doing his best and if you ask me hes gone above and beyond the call of duty. Get off his back, and let him do his job.
you ask for a link Quoting Click away http://tso-e.com/blog/?p=326

11-02-2007, 11:20 AM

Whoa! Hold on there! I'm not on anyones back as you say!

Yes pre-merge, but still premature in my opinion. You need to settle yourself and accept that I'm entitled to my opinion same as anyone. Besides 90% of the posts on these forums are complaints. I'm regularly accused of being too positive about the changes yet when I voice a less then positive opinion about something then I'm on the devs backs?? Gimme a break!!!!

11-02-2007, 01:31 PM

I thought this thread was about the merger date. So here, I will repeat what I said much earlier in this thread that everyone has ignored:

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Hear is what I said earlier in case anyone missed it. This is what I have learned as far as a merge date:

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I must have been the only one listening when Lee stated something about the merge in the pub. He stated last week that the TC & TC3 merge was aiming to happen within the month and to have have all the cities merged within 10 weeks. He said this is what they are aiming for. So they are hoping for mid December to be done with the merge.

Now, I will remind you, this is what he said they are AIMING for, it was not a definite.

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11-02-2007, 01:37 PM

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I thought this thread was about the merger date. So here, I will repeat what I said much earlier in this thread that everyone has ignored:

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Hear is what I said earlier in case anyone missed it. This is what I have learned as far as a merge date:

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I must have been the only one listening when Lee stated something about the merge in the pub. He stated last week that the TC & TC3 merge was aiming to happen within the month and to have have all the cities merged within 10 weeks. He said this is what they are aiming for. So they are hoping for mid December to be done with the merge.

Now, I will remind you, this is what he said they are AIMING for, it was not a definite.

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If we acknowledge that we see it now, saw it the last time AND the first time will you not repeat it anymore? http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 01:42 PM

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Be carefull what you say too Niki. Your true colors are shining thru. You really think its a waste of time trying to help everyone to get into TC3? As long as you can get in right - who cares about everyone else!!! How shelfish. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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That is also the login that will be used for EA Land as per Lee. So are you saying it should not have been tested prior to EA Land opening? The TC3 button is no different than the EA Land button and patching over NEEDED to be tested on a bigger scale so ALL can get there when it opens. Looks like it was the right thing to do as MANY issues have been found by doing this and testing it. THE BIG PICTURE IS EVEN BIGGER THAN SOME THINK.

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Post merge we wont need a TC3 button, everyone will be in EA Land and those that choose to play TC3 will continue to do so, I doubt many will at that point choose to create sims in TC3. Taking time out of a busy schedule to make that proverbial button because some players arent willing to use workarounds to get there just may have been a mistake. Its certainly presented a host of issues that continue to delay the progression of the game. Was it necessary to test it? Yes absolutely, but looks to me like it was rushed to accomodate some players. Of course I'm not sitting around complaining about nothing "new and fun" being added to the game fast enough, but maybe just maybe they would have more time to work on new content if they werent besieged by issues created by prematurely making the login changes. After all the merge hasnt even started yet so were not in need of access to EA Land at this time. Oh and not being able to test is nothing new, many players over the years havent had sims in TC and couldnt test changes without deleting a sim or opening a new acct. Same as always those that choose to test do.

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Niki, TC3 is not going away after the merge . It will still be seperate from EA Land , so it is fact going to be needed to be able to get to TC3. OY!

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 01:43 PM

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I thought this thread was about the merger date. So here, I will repeat what I said much earlier in this thread that everyone has ignored:

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Hear is what I said earlier in case anyone missed it. This is what I have learned as far as a merge date:

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I must have been the only one listening when Lee stated something about the merge in the pub. He stated last week that the TC & TC3 merge was aiming to happen within the month and to have have all the cities merged within 10 weeks. He said this is what they are aiming for. So they are hoping for mid December to be done with the merge.

Now, I will remind you, this is what he said they are AIMING for, it was not a definite.

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If we acknowledge that we see it now, saw it the last time AND the first time will you not repeat it anymore? http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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AMEN!

11-02-2007, 01:44 PM

No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 01:47 PM

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No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

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Can you back that up with facts or a link please. I would be very much be interested in knowing how to get to TC3 without a patch or button. TYVM.

11-02-2007, 01:51 PM

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No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

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Can you back that up with facts or a link please. I would be very much be interested in knowing how to get to TC3 without a patch or button. TYVM.

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No, I don't have a link which is why I said "I believe" and "I'll readily admit I coudl be wrong". It just makes sense to me that this is the way it would be. When TC1 is running on a different version because they get stuff before the production cities do, they require a patch too, yet they have no special button, right? TC3 will be virtually the same as EA Land, only it serve the function that TC1 does for us now....so the only time it should require a patch is when TC3 is testing out something new for EA Land. The button is necessary now because people did not want to delete a sim to go to TC3, but even before the button those who did choose to do so could get there without the button, so why couldn't they post merge? It doesn't make sense to me http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 01:57 PM

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No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

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Can you back that up with facts or a link please. I would be very much be interested in knowing how to get to TC3 without a patch or button. TYVM.

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No, I don't have a link which is why I said "I believe" and "I'll readily admit I coudl be wrong". It just makes sense to me that this is the way it would be. When TC1 is running on a different version because they get stuff before the production cities do, they require a patch too, yet they have no special button, right? TC3 will be virtually the same as EA Land, only it serve the function that TC1 does for us now....so the only time it should require a patch is when TC3 is testing out something new for EA Land. The button is necessary now because people did not want to delete a sim to go to TC3, but even before the button those who did choose to do so could get there without the button, so why couldn't they post merge? It doesn't make sense to me http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Ok, guess I wasted all those hours in the Pub getting factual information. My bad.

11-02-2007, 02:11 PM

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No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

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Can you back that up with facts or a link please. I would be very much be interested in knowing how to get to TC3 without a patch or button. TYVM.

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No, I don't have a link which is why I said "I believe" and "I'll readily admit I coudl be wrong". It just makes sense to me that this is the way it would be. When TC1 is running on a different version because they get stuff before the production cities do, they require a patch too, yet they have no special button, right? TC3 will be virtually the same as EA Land, only it serve the function that TC1 does for us now....so the only time it should require a patch is when TC3 is testing out something new for EA Land. The button is necessary now because people did not want to delete a sim to go to TC3, but even before the button those who did choose to do so could get there without the button, so why couldn't they post merge? It doesn't make sense to me http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Ok, guess I wasted all those hours in the Pub getting factual information. My bad.

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OK then, instead of being a smart aleck about it would you be willing to share what you've learned? I haven't had an opportunity to visit the pub in a while, so I was basing my beliefs on what I thought to be logical. Now I can do what I said I would be glad to do, and admit that I am obviously wrong, but I'd like to know what the truth is http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Keep It Real

11-02-2007, 02:18 PM

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No, I don't believe so KIR, I think TC3 will be an option at the select a sim screen just like TC1 is now, although I'll readily admit I could be wrong. If that's the case though then the 'button' would not be needed for anything but BV if they keep that, and not even that if they don't.

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Can you back that up with facts or a link please. I would be very much be interested in knowing how to get to TC3 without a patch or button. TYVM.

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No, I don't have a link which is why I said "I believe" and "I'll readily admit I coudl be wrong". It just makes sense to me that this is the way it would be. When TC1 is running on a different version because they get stuff before the production cities do, they require a patch too, yet they have no special button, right? TC3 will be virtually the same as EA Land, only it serve the function that TC1 does for us now....so the only time it should require a patch is when TC3 is testing out something new for EA Land. The button is necessary now because people did not want to delete a sim to go to TC3, but even before the button those who did choose to do so could get there without the button, so why couldn't they post merge? It doesn't make sense to me http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Ok, guess I wasted all those hours in the Pub getting factual information. My bad.

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OK then, instead of being a smart aleck about it would you be willing to share what you've learned? I haven't had an opportunity to visit the pub in a while, so I was basing my beliefs on what I thought to be logical. Now I can do what I said I would be glad to do, and admit that I am obviously wrong, but I'd like to know what the truth is http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I advise going to the Pub and asking for yourself. I was basically called a liar in another thread for giving information and I don't plan on sharing what I have learned anymore or give links to anything, just too much harrassment on this forum anymore. I'm done with this thread. HAVE A SUPER-D-DUPER DAY!!!!

Sativa L

11-02-2007, 02:25 PM

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Test Centre to TC3 merge November 21. EA Land Opens Dec 5. (thought it would be more suiting to wait for the official 5th anniversary of TSO) First Production City merge Dec 12. With updates being on Wednesdays, there really aren't alot of dates to choose from.

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Great news! Can you tell me where you got that information, plz?

[/ QUOTE ] I wish it was "news" Simone. lol Those dates are my uneducated when a pool to guess at merger dates was made somewhere in this post http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

11-02-2007, 02:26 PM

Gee, thanks http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Proves Gilly's point in the other thread, some people have harrassed and berated the helpful, positive people that they are not willing to be helpful anymore *sigh*. On one hand I understand that position, of not wanting to set myself up for that kind of ridicule and torment, but on the other hand I think rising above it and sharing anyway and ignoring, for the benefit of the community as a whole and those who are not trolling, the trolls would be a better course of action. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/frown.gif

11-02-2007, 02:57 PM

I've got to wonder if you have ever even seen the new login window...
http://tso-e.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/loginscreen.jpg

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October 17, 2007 Update to TC3 - Version 2.1448.0.0
Posted in TSO by lfancey on the October 17th, 2007

Hello,

It is that time again. Today’s update will now allow all players to make a TC3 avatar. In addition this is the first step, of many, that will move us forward on opening EA-Land. It is also lays the foundation for getting you improved graphics rolled out.

As you can see from above you are now able to select from Test Center 3 and The Sims Online. The Sims Online option allows you connect to all your favorite old cities while the Test Center 3 option will let you get to TC3 with out having to sacrifice one of you characters. Now everyone can come to the Pub to get questions answered. Heck sometimes we even have fun at the Pub.

Before you ask; yes the other options are grayed out as they are not yet functional. EA-Land should be self describing. “TC3 - test” and “EALand - test” will “eventually” allow you to patch to the upgraded graphics version. Since we know some of you may not be able to run the new graphis these two buttons exist so you can patch back and still play the game.

[/ QUOTE ] Link to Blog (http://tso-e.com/blog/?p=326)

That update was not just so people could get to TC3, it was merely a step in opening EA Land. I really don't think it had anything to do with making TC3 available to all, they had to do it, so they did it. Now if they could get it to work right for everyone, maybe they can move on to the next steps.

11-02-2007, 03:10 PM

That's the new log in screen. People were having problems before the Oct. 17th update. That was the whole point of the post that started the flames back and forth.

11-02-2007, 03:10 PM

I think rising above it and sharing anyway

I have risen above it in sharing my knowledge of visitor hour calculations. I would do the same for TC3, but all I know is what I remember from the blog and from Stratics. I have been lucky in that no one has ever attacked me.

11-02-2007, 03:34 PM

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That's the new log in screen. People were having problems before the Oct. 17th update. That was the whole point of the post that started the flames back and forth.

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I'm not sure what login problems prior to that date you refer to. Maybe it's my imagination that the Oct 17th update started the whole mess of trouble logging in. Wonder why it was stickied...
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As for merger, I'm putting in my "guess" for the second wednesday of the third week of next year.. ok ok, just being one of those "educated dumb asses" so I will pick November 14.

imported_Dali Dalinza

11-02-2007, 03:36 PM

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That's the new log in screen. People were having problems before the Oct. 17th update. That was the whole point of the post that started the flames back and forth.

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so I will pick November 14.

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2007, 2008 or...? http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/wink.gif

11-02-2007, 03:36 PM

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11-02-2007, 04:56 PM

The 12th.

11-02-2007, 07:21 PM

I'd just like to point out that the dates being posted are simply the community guessing and enjoying a wager on when the merge might happen. The dates are not hard and fast dates given by the developers.

(I've heard people in TC3 tonight showing confusion over the fact they've read dates for the merger here and I wanted to help clear up some of that confusion)

Polly

11-03-2007, 06:41 AM

11-03-2007, 07:40 AM

This is a time of transition and uncertainty, and it is natural for folks to pull back until they see the lay of the new land.

I am sure once we are merged and everyone feels more confident of where everything is going and how it is going to work, that there will be many more activities of all kinds to chose from, and I doubt that money oriented contests and rare buying will dominate......especially since no one will really have the funds for it.

I think this would be the very worst time to judge the game........everything is under construction and so betwix and between, that it is hard to visualize the final product, from where we are standing. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/smile.gif

11-03-2007, 08:43 AM

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........everything is under construction and so betwix and between, that it is hard to visualize the final product, from where we are standing.

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Yes, but that in itself is a big problem - <u>everything</u> is under construction and we don't know what the final product will look like.
We are (most of us) going on a huge amount of faith, and for me, it is getting more and more difficult to keep a positive attitude in the face of the constant problems and changes in decisions.
We are, supposedly, only a few days or weeks from the opening of EALand and there is still no clear picture of what it will be.

I have tried to be supportive despite a cynical initial reaction..... but now, I'm just tired. Add in all the chaos and anarchy on Stratics and it becomes more than I signed on for.
If something positive doesn't happen soon....

11-03-2007, 11:37 AM

there will be many more activities of all kinds to chose from

The only new activity I see is going off to play other EA games. And of course travelling around to see custom content like people do in SL. I hope my view is myopic.

11-03-2007, 03:44 PM

I see your point Gamer, but I have to believe that the people who could make fun lots, games and parties, with the antiquated game system and nothing new, for over two years, will be creating even more fun things to do in EA Land, with the loads of new content and the stronger system and better tools that they will have. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

11-03-2007, 05:35 PM

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I see your point Gamer, but I have to believe that the people who could make fun lots, games and parties, with the antiquated game system and nothing new, for over two years, will be creating even more fun things to do in EA Land, with the loads of new content and the stronger system and better tools that they will have. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Except that... every day more and more of the old TSO is being exorcized. The game is going to be 'brand new' instead of 'restored, upgraded, and customized'.

11-03-2007, 05:42 PM

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I see your point Gamer, but I have to believe that the people who could make fun lots, games and parties, with the antiquated game system and nothing new, for over two years, will be creating even more fun things to do in EA Land, with the loads of new content and the stronger system and better tools that they will have. http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Except that... every day more and more of the old TSO is being exorcized. The game is going to be 'brand new' instead of 'restored, upgraded, and customized'.

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Yes, it is, but that's something we've known for a long time now....people have been saying that around the boards for at least a month, maybe longer. TSO as we know it, is virtually gone. When it's all said and done, we'll have our same avatars and houses in a whole new world, and a whole new game. The reason we're keeping avatars and houses is because players beggged for it....with good reason of course. But as I see it, and have seen it since they started talking about how profound some of the changes are going to ultimately be, right on down to how we skill being different.......the game will be totally new.

11-03-2007, 05:59 PM

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in AV there is a sim named MAXIS EA REP it is Parizad,,on that house bio { The Community Pub} it states that TC3 & TC will merge Nov 1st and the rest of the cities will take place on Jan 1st,,,
,i admit i did not take the time to read ALL of the posts on this thread so if this info has been given out already i apologize

11-03-2007, 06:23 PM

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in AV there is a sim named MAXIS EA REP it is Parizad,,on that house bio { The Community Pub} it states that TC3 & TC will merge Nov 1st and the rest of the cities will take place on Jan 1st,,,
,i admit i did not take the time to read ALL of the posts on this thread so if this info has been given out already i apologize

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Until Parizad posts that that is her herself, I'm gonna say that is an imposter of an EA Rep and should be reported as such using the in-game reporting system. Always better safe than sorry. If you report the sim/bio and it DOES turn out to be Parizad, you will not get busted for turning in a false report, nor will Parizad get in any trouble since she is an official EA Rep and therefore not impersonating one. However impersonating an EA Rep is a really serious deal. I know somebody a while back that got a nice little temp ban because she was joking with somebody in house chat and they were arguing something back and forth and her friend goes "LOL how do you know what you're talking about, you don't work for EA" and she goes "LOL yes I do! http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" a 3rd party reported her and BOOM. Suspended. I don't think it was a permanent ban because she had never been in trouble before, and the whole thing was in jest, but if that's not Parizad in AV then this person obviously really is serious if they've gone so far as to create the Pub in AV. I'd think if there was an offical pub in AV then there would have been an announcement about it here, but again I could be wrong too. But like I said, until Parizad confirms herself that yeah that's her, I'm not buying it.......call me jaded but there's too many scammers in TSO trying to pull off [censored] so I'd rather be cynical and be proven wrong than be gullible and be proven right, ya know?

ETA: November 1st has come and gone already, so that proves that person is a scammer/spoofer and not Parizad because if that info was correct then the merge of TC/TC3 would have already happened, right? So I'm not understanding......are you reporting this AS a scam here, or are you reporting it because you believed it might be accurate information? http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif If you already believe this is a scam then the in-game reporting system is the best way to bust that person, rather than posting it here, although I guess if Parizad wanted to take action herself based on information posted her she could. I guess I'm confused now that I think about it about the intent of you posting that information.......was it an alert of a scam or saying that you believe this to be accurate info? http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/shared/images/graemlins/confused.gif

11-03-2007, 06:53 PM

Is it a fat bald guy? If so thats the one that Pari busted a couple weeks ago, I know there was a thread about it. Personally I think the sim/bio/house should be removed from the game to avoid any future confusion.

festrmentmagnet

11-03-2007, 07:03 PM

Yah, it is that bald guy.

11-04-2007, 01:16 AM

lol is that the 12th of never?

xfrozenx

11-05-2007, 09:01 AM

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Has anyone heard anything in regards to us being any closer to the actual merger date or is everyone still in the dark as to an approxiamte date? It seems that everyone and everything in all cities are in a hold/pause mode at this time in anticipation of the pending merger and it's getting pretty boring. No one is selling anything nor holding property contest for simoleans because they know that they'll just be wiped at merger.

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Agreed, TSO has become a major yawn fest. All there is left to do is pull pets or go to TC3 and work a job track(old and tired jobs). Untill the merge actaully happens I doubt you'll see much activity in any of the cities being merged. Sucks don't it.

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That's so untrue. I have been a sims player since 2004. I just recently joined back up because I've been hearing on forums that The Sims Online is finally going to start getting updates again. I now see that they are updating again. You trully never know what they may add new to The Sims Online as far as Additions. They could finally start updating the property information again where it says the status on propertys. Then they could update your history of what you do on your sim, all that good stuff. Then of course new crafting additions, etc.... You trully never know. I really think with this merge people will start playing again and we could even see The Sims Online get as big as it use to be...with proper updates of course. It could happen though. They just need to stay on the ball and keep updating and get the merging going etc... To prove to us that they are working hard on the game again instead of it sitting without many news updates for years. Finally starting to see updates now and I think it's only the beginning of good things to happen on The Sims Online. Plus with money resetting you know people will start earning money again. =)

I hope TSO Explodes and gets popular again. Never know.