Oceania PVP Thread - Episode 21 - Pot & Kettle

[Paradox_]

I would love to see a picture of Elwood and his 'girl friend'

I bet its a massive whale, who has a vagina, or some sort of orrifice that resembles one, to be classified as female.

[iddqd]

just checked my ping to sakura, its at 120-125 so ill be seeing you guys on sakura. just got a newish pc so i should be up and going in a few weeks

[Benny Lava]

im tipping you will either quit uo or come back to oceania within 3 weeks.

[Elwood]

Originally Posted by Petrify

The reason I play a game is to have fun when I'm bored at home

Which is about 90% of your spare time. It's ok, you don't need to justify it to me.

I don't care what some 32 year old nerd thinks about me.

Once again, yes you do or you wouldn't respond.

Actually, I'm 17. The only thing I'm looking forward to when I'm 18 is clubs

Nice... way to aim high kid

Also you say you don't know them enough to hate them, yet you know me enough to judge my personality and assume I can't "get" a girl?

Correct. I could tell that after listening to you for the first time in vent. Not bad huh?

Oh and by the way, pretty much only ugly or lonely people think personality actually matters for something,

Actually no, pretty much only deprived teenage nerds who can't get sex think that. Ask anyone here who has a girlfriend (ie someone you spend a lot of time with) and they will tell you that personality matters a lot. The attraction will only last so long if the other person is an idiot. I don't expect you to understand that though.

I don't care how they act.

Of course you don't. You're a 17 year old virgin, you would hump a vacuum cleaner if you could get away with it. Come to think of it you probably already have.

[Benny Lava]

lol ****ing owned.

wow sso got absolutley pumped tonight. they had to call in oceania to help them & still got owned.

lol

[Petrify]

Which is about 90% of your spare time. It's ok, you don't need to justify it to me.

I stopped gaming at 16 and I'm rarely home on the weekends. You stopped gaming at age 32. Who is sadder?

Actually no, pretty much only deprived teenage nerds who can't get sex think that. Ask anyone here who has a girlfriend (ie someone you spend a lot of time with) and they will tell you that personality matters a lot. The attraction will only last so long if the other person is an idiot. I don't expect you to understand that though.

I have a girlfriend but I don't see why its necessary to try and enter a dick measuring contest over it on a forum. I find the it unbelievably stupid that you are arguing with a 17 year old over girls on a forum when your 32 years of age. Your life must be pretty bad.

[Paradox_]

Pet let him brag... its not often he gets a girlfriend - or something that resembles a girl. He did this last time remember? When he was in Europe?

Nice... way to aim high kid

Curious... what did you aim for when you were 17, and did you reach it? My guess being 'Chief Donation Collector' for some rundown Aboriginal petrol sniffing pack raping 'football' club is what you aimed for isn't it? What is sadder, you telling him he cant aim high when he is only 17 - or you failing to get anywhere in your life and you are nearly double his age?

Oh but I forgot, you played rugby, and now have a girlfriend. Life is a success eh?

[iddqd]

sorry benny, i understand your command of english isnt the best, so i understand you might find losing the spawn and having to hide in the faction area to be a victory for your boys.

lol the rons had me on their side, i was so bad i was basically on your side also.

absolutely useless. have to get some duels and get in shape.

[Benny Lava]

english good

started spawn to 'create pvp' as you guys would say. u came and got whooped.

[Paradox_]

How many did AUPK have and how many did SSO have?

I rest my case.

[iddqd]

actually it was 8 v 3 - though one of the 3 was me, so really it was 8.5 v 2, because basically i was more of a hindrance than anything. they lost the spawn, then had to run through trolls, then back, then through the destard teleporter, then hide in faction area. then we went back to kill the champ, they appeared for three seconds, pwned me, and left - never to return.

so much for 'creating pvp' - you fought only when it was basically 4-1 odds, when two others joined us, making it 8 v 5 (though really only 4, as i logged in with my spawnbot, so was merely uselesss instead of actually a hindrance) the fight was over.

it seems pvp revolves around apples now. they need to nerf them, remopve the change where you cant prep spec attacks while casting and it'd be fine.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by iddqd

actually it was 8 v 3 - though one of the 3 was me, so really it was 8.5 v 2, because basically i was more of a hindrance than anything. they lost the spawn, then had to run through trolls, then back, then through the destard teleporter, then hide in faction area. then we went back to kill the champ, they appeared for three seconds, pwned me, and left - never to return.

so much for 'creating pvp' - you fought only when it was basically 4-1 odds, when two others joined us, making it 8 v 5 (though really only 4, as i logged in with my spawnbot, so was merely uselesss instead of actually a hindrance) the fight was over.

it seems pvp revolves around apples now. they need to nerf them, remopve the change where you cant prep spec attacks while casting and it'd be fine.

Name the 8.

[Benny Lava]

2 rons, drac, dal & ash with reximus and hairyman

so thats hmmm..... 7 of you?

[iddqd]

dismountings not so much an issue for me, yeah sure its pretty powerful, but you can do things to survive. there doesnt seem to be much you can do about someone constantly and instantly removing any curses without using any mana or anything at all, with no repercussions. simply, apples should be able to be eaten once every 2-3 minutes.

i mean we used to survive just fine vs necros, nox necros etc using just pots, and if you were particularly worried, dropping some chiv into the template or going human and making use of JOAT. why do we need an item that pretty much completely negates an entire magic system, as well as one of the more important spells for mage combat - curse?

trammy dev teams are the worst.

[iddqd]

and ps. hiding in faction area is pretty low.

[iddqd]

by the way, the current accepted definition of 'generating pvp' is seeing an acceptably large number of opponents online and about, and sitting at luna (or wbb as was the case sometimes) and GATING people to the entrance, telling them a spawn or harrower is on.

[iddqd]

though in your defence, there arent an 'acceptably large' number of sso anymore.

[iddqd]

a gank is a gank, dismount or no. dismounts are not so much of a problem for me, as a good player can not only escape the trap, but can in certain circumstances turn it into an advantage, by pulling out a club and dismounting in return. sure its a very harsh thing in a lot of circumstances, but smart and skilful play can overcome it in an acceptable % of situations.

stuff like apples, evasion spam are just dull, as theyre completely passive and completely immune from any tactical or strategical counter.

objectively i dont blame people for abusing them, the devs should really be better than to allow something like this, but its not like theyve ever gotten much right in the past. (imbuing looks good though, they get crafting right lol)

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by SakuraPower

AUPK:

1. Toxen
2. Dragod
3. Benny's archer
4. Clog's archer
5. Archie - dismounter
6. Reaper
7. Venus
8. Mighty Mouse (logged half way through when stated - assume its Skinny G)

Drac was there for about 2 minutes, he was 200 ping. He came, died, then gave up as he was so lagged. ASH was there for around 10 minutes, he got dismount ganked and never came back until destard (see below).

Most of the time it was Dal, and Ron x2 vs your 7.

Rex and Hairy were minax, and helped us mainly towards the end. They were in stat helping us. That makes it 3 + 2 statlossed minax (so 5) vs your 7 (8 at beginning) who could all x heal/communicate in vent.

Most of your kills were all dismount ganked related - no surpsise.

Then Reaper and Archie logged out. You all either died or ran off to destard. At destard it was 5 vs 5 and you all ran into the faction base and hid in their because most of us couldn't get in. Ash came on his factioner, where you ganked him in the faction base 5vs1. Utterly cowardly actions on your half. You all ran off and in of the faction base for about 5 minutes. During that time you managed to kill Rex who was in stat, but Dragod died twice doing so. You then all logged because you lost your number advantage/dismounter.

Reverse the situation, you wouldn't have even showed.

Last night: 95% of your kills were a result of 2 dismounters (1 a lame bok tamer). I got sick to death of it so I got my tamer and owned your dismount tamer to even it up. I logged out and got my red mage. You all refused to fight after that despite having an extra number. You guys can rarely kill **** without dismounting.

I don't think anyone on Oceania would suddenly believe you guys got skills. Your all just woeful dismount gankers, no better than KoV ever was.

Dal - apples. Yes, as I previously said it's lame, espicially when some players carry 30-50. People like Venus and Benny are near impossible to kill due to it, they won't even attempt to fight if cursed. Need to change our templates to counter it really, I may do so as I'm sick to death of their running/dismounting tactics. However I need imbueing before I can make my desired template.

No Mighty mouse is my wreslte mage. so still 7v7

[iddqd]

in all honesty, it was mostly 3-4 sso (though of that 4 1 was me, and i am currently worse than useless, so i really do NOT count in any numbers at the moment). the two archers were there for a little, and were not at the faction base where 5 of you hid from rons, ash and myself.

for the first (and only part where i could see you guys actually trying to fight) part of the fight, which lasted the longest, it was those characters of yours listed, vs rons and myself - though i was alone for much of that, and not the slightest threat to anyone.

[Reximus]

Originally Posted by iddqd

it seems pvp revolves around apples now. they need to nerf them, remopve the change where you cant prep spec attacks while casting and it'd be fine.

I looted 70 apples between 2 OPK corpses during the brief time I was there, 70 apples!?!?

[iddqd]

rex, ALL those are from the corpses of the other guys. i myself would have had something like 25 of them on my corpse, and i dont have any apples whatsoever in my castle or bank or anywhere.

[iddqd]

ah wait, im not OPK anymore. you mean FAKE opk. i get it now.

[Reximus]

OPK owned by a bard.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by Reximus

OPK owned by a bard.

Well done. BaM isnt even 12 yet mate. well done

[Held]

Just because he's 12 doesn't mean he is retarded

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by Held

Just because he's 12 doesn't mean he is retarded

i never said he was....

[Clog|Mordain]

I thought bow were one of the best on the shard?

Explain how tonight me and sneaky put 3 of their chars into stat?


Hairy Man
Grezelda
Hairless One


If they were so good, why did they die to the apparent ****test on the shard?

[Clog|Mordain]

LOL!!!

Hairys excuse was someone hacked his computer and took over his keys!!


OMFGLOL!!!

[Reximus]

Originally Posted by Clog|Mordain

LOL!!!

Hairys excuse was someone hacked his computer and took over his keys!!


OMFGLOL!!!

Hairy was telling me that he saw 2 OPK duelling the other day, and the guy who lost, despite the fact he was gonna die anyway, came back and said 'I only died because I got DC', so I told hairy 'think up an OPK-like excuse'....

[Reximus]

Originally Posted by Clog|Mordain

Explain how tonight me and sneaky put 3 of their chars into stat?

Because he has the balls to run out of the house into a 3vs1 with a discord bard etc, half of your guild won't even leave their house 1vs1.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by Reximus

Because he has the balls to run out of the house into a 3vs1 with a discord bard etc, half of your guild won't even leave their house 1vs1.

That is just sheer stupidity.

And have you ever seen me house hide 1v1? Probably not.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by Reximus

Hairy was telling me that he saw 2 OPK duelling the other day, and the guy who lost, despite the fact he was gonna die anyway, came back and said 'I only died because I got DC', so I told hairy 'think up an OPK-like excuse'....

How do you know that character was gunna die?

And... still... he woulda died anyway if he didnt DC he was mortaled with approx 30 hp left and a AI and flamestrike coming his way.

Also, i love your first instinct at the start of that fight... Dismount someone....

[iddqd]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[Reximus]

Originally Posted by Clog|Mordain

And have you ever seen me house hide 1v1? Probably not.

It's very rare to see you anywhere except at Luna bank.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by Reximus

It's very rare to see you anywhere except at Luna bank.

Um... I am only at luna when there is nothing going on, playing WOW, or just plain not at the computer.

[Waylander]

wow still the same crap

you all need to get a real life

[Eclipse_TAFE]

I have to agree with, who i assume, are SSO on these boards. 99% of this shard cannot PVP. The only people who have beaten us in a fair fight(without the use of gimplates) are SSO.

Also what is it with everyone naming every character in the guild the same? Ive counted atleast 4 different Helds, and 2 toilet hands(who i assume are only doing it to try and counter the others).

Also. How many apples does this shard use?

[Held]

Originally Posted by Eclipse_TAFE

Also. How many apples does this shard use?

Seven.

[iddqd]

apples need a serious fixing. a cooldown of 2-5 minutes per apple would be excellent, and 30 seconds per 'remove curse' spell would be sufficient.

running has always been a major part of UO pvp, apples make it impossible, and COMPLETELY negate necromancy as a pvp option.

plus trap boxes are a joke. how long has it been and still no acceptable fix.

[iddqd]

well, actually no coolddown on the spell is fine - you can fizzle it, and it takes a fair bit of mana (maybe an increase on mana cost would be good)

[Eclipse_TAFE]

Originally Posted by iddqd

apples need a serious fixing. a cooldown of 2-5 minutes per apple would be excellent, and 30 seconds per 'remove curse' spell would be sufficient.

running has always been a major part of UO pvp, apples make it impossible, and COMPLETELY negate necromancy as a pvp option.

plus trap boxes are a joke. how long has it been and still no acceptable fix.

/Signed.

When the only 2 members in our guild both run necro mages, it makes it impossible for us to really use the template to the full ability.

Trap boxes should deal the same amount of damage whether they were crafted with 60 tinkering or GM tinkering, just make it so that you can only add different traps with higher skill. IE. 60 tinkering allows you to add the dart trap, where 70 would let you add dart trap, and explosion trap.

[Eclipse_TAFE]

Originally Posted by iddqd

well, actually no coolddown on the spell is fine - you can fizzle it, and it takes a fair bit of mana (maybe an increase on mana cost would be good)

Yeah the spell i dont have a problem with, if they can manage to get it off all the time, they deserve to stay curse free.

But also, remove curse, whether it be item or spell, should not remove every single curse at once. Maybe the first curse, or last, or even add a roll in there to remove it randomly

[iddqd]

well, necro mage has always been fairly weak, a necro dexer however was once a really useful template for pvp (its still great for spawning), but now its utterly redundant.

outside that, the 'curse' spell is necessary for pvp for mages - the resistances and the way damage works REQUIRE you curse people - that was always a key indicator for who was pro or noob. if they didnt put curse on you, you knew you could ignore them.

basically, theres no now point to using anything but a totally scriptable archer using bandies, apples, pots and trap box (so 0 resist, meaning more room for other skills).

weeeeeee, i can pvp with 4 buttons, just like WoW! wait, why am i playing this piece of crap old game, when i can do the exact same thing, but better, on WoW? hmm, guess i'd better go back to that piece of crap, seeing as how theyve reduced this one to trying be 'compete' (LOL) with it.

[iddqd]

not to mention the damn toggle nerf. DUMBEST NERF EVER.

[Eclipse_TAFE]

WHERE THE F*** IS ALL THE PVP ON THIS SHARD?

[Eclipse_TAFE]

Does this shard do anything but rely on apples? my god? what has pvp come too?


Oh. and dismount

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by Eclipse_TAFE

Yeah the spell i dont have a problem with, if they can manage to get it off all the time, they deserve to stay curse free.

I agree, but I think they need to balance Chiv in a big way. It needs to be more reliant on skill rather than karma. You should need GM Chiv or better to have a 100% success chance for remove curse. Not that it would make much of a difference while there are apples, they should be removed completely.

But also, remove curse, whether it be item or spell, should not remove every single curse at once. Maybe the first curse, or last, or even add a roll in there to remove it randomly

I like this. It should remove 1 random curse.

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by iddqd

not to mention the damn toggle nerf. DUMBEST NERF EVER.

This still makes me lol every time I hear SSO cry about this. Get over it and learn to toggle already!

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by Eclipse_TAFE

The only people who have beaten us in a fair fight(without the use of gimplates) are SSO.

Buddy I think you are forgetting how I dropped you in about 10secs not too long ago on my scribe. Or maybe you don't consider 1v1 as a fair fight? ^_-

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by iddqd

basically, theres no now point to using anything but a totally scriptable archer using bandies, apples, pots and trap box (so 0 resist, meaning more room for other skills).

weeeeeee, i can pvp with 4 buttons, just like WoW! wait, why am i playing this piece of crap old game, when i can do the exact same thing, but better, on WoW? hmm, guess i'd better go back to that piece of crap, seeing as how theyve reduced this one to trying be 'compete' (LOL) with it.

Dal, I agree with you about Archers being nub, but where you say there is no point playing anything else is just plain wrong. I'm surprised you would come up with something like that TBH.

Oh, and no matter how nub Archers are, I would play one every day if I had to rather than ever go near WoW again...

[iddqd]

generally speaking, for most players there is no point learning to use anything else (read: mage) because there is no point putting in the time and effort it requires to learn to be good on a mage, when you can just acquire a suit (which is DEAD easy now), a wep and start pvping as effectively as anyone else, with no effort or skill with interface required.

trust me, i know what im doing when i make statements like this.

with apples, not fixing trap boxes, the huge ramp-up in item quality across the board, the toggle nerf (and to a far lesser extent the tactics change - though i like that change TBH) and others, they have simplified this game far too much. in catering to morons, theyre making the game too easy to play, and if people want to play an easy-to-learn game with an interface that pretty much requires 4 buttons, they'll play wow.


imbuing is freaking awesome though. they did well with that.

[Eclipse_TAFE]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Que

Buddy I think you are forgetting how I dropped you in about 10secs not too long ago on my scribe. Or maybe you don't consider 1v1 as a fair fight? ^_-

So true. But also look at the template we use. Not really a 1v1 template.. You should always beat me one that.

Perhaps ill fight you again once i finish my new character.

Also. Just a note, you probably used apples and pots in that 1v1. I cant really remember

imbuing is freaking awesome though. they did well with that.

QTF. My suit is completely imbued. And it is great. 100 lrc 40 lmc 40 ep 12 MR 60 dci

[Eclipse_TAFE]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Que

I agree, but I think they need to balance Chiv in a big way. It needs to be more reliant on skill rather than karma. You should need GM Chiv or better to have a 100% success chance for remove curse. Not that it would make much of a difference while there are apples, they should be removed completely.



I like this. It should remove 1 random curse.

It would balance pvp in the game so much. But it wont happen.

[Eclipse_TAFE]

LOL!!!! So its alright for you to play a dismount tamer, but when you get dismount ganked its not right?

[Elwood]

Originally Posted by iddqd

...there is no point putting in the time and effort it requires to learn to be good on a mage, when you can just acquire a suit (which is DEAD easy now), a wep and start pvping as effectively as anyone else, with no effort or skill with interface required.

trust me, i know what im doing when i make statements like this.

with apples, not fixing trap boxes, the huge ramp-up in item quality across the board, the toggle nerf (and to a far lesser extent the tactics change - though i like that change TBH) and others, they have simplified this game far too much. in catering to morons, theyre making the game too easy to play...

I don't disagree with this but I have to ask, considering what you have just said, why were you so crap when you returned to the game? From some of your older posts I assumed that you must have been a decent pvper back in the day but when you returned, even after a couple of months to shake off the rust and adapt to the pvp changes, you were still rubbish.

[Petrify]

Originally Posted by Elwood

I don't disagree with this but I have to ask, considering what you have just said, why were you so crap when you returned to the game? From some of your older posts I assumed that you must have been a decent pvper back in the day but when you returned, even after a couple of months to shake off the rust and adapt to the pvp changes, you were still rubbish.

Dal was easily in the top tier of pvpers when UO was actually good and he was probably the smartest player I've pvped with.

[iddqd]

ive pvp'd exactly once since ive played, and played probably a total of about 8 hours in about a month. the last time i played before that was a over a year before. in fact, i only have one useable character atm, and thats a blue spawnbot - which ive messed with the template of since coming back also.

yeah, youve really got a great handle on my pvp skillz from that sample. in fact, i dont even know where you would have seen me - were you one of the 8 guys who got owned by the rons and ash, while i was there being so useless that i was basically fighting for you guys? cos thats the only fight ive had. and from that experience of watching 2 guys conclusively destroy you after your initial little 3 minutes of success, i dont really have much incentive to bother getting back to the sort of level i could.

but thanks for your input. maybe if you trash me some more ill get the incentive.

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by Petrify

Dal was easily in the top tier of pvpers when UO was actually good and he was probably the smartest player I've pvped with.

Also the biggest rager on the shard (that I have heard anyway). Listening to Dal while he was dueling was so classic... "I CANT LAND A $&#*ING %&*$ POISON #%$@ING HELL!! $&#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Drac's recording of him was priceless. To Dal's credit he was able to laugh at himself after.

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by Eclipse_TAFE

Also. Just a note, you probably used apples and pots in that 1v1. I cant really remember

Nope, I didnt get a chance to :P

[Sneaky Que]

Originally Posted by iddqd

imbuing is freaking awesome though. they did well with that.

Imbuing is for nubs.

[Petrify]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Que

Also the biggest rager on the shard (that I have heard anyway). Listening to Dal while he was dueling was so classic... "I CANT LAND A $&#*ING %&*$ POISON #%$@ING HELL!! $&#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Drac's recording of him was priceless. To Dal's credit he was able to laugh at himself after.

Nothing wrong with raging, I love it.

[iddqd]

i love a good rage. specially with games.

also id think to my credit, i dont rage at others, just at the game itself or myself. least i dont recall raging at anyone over vent.

ooo, have raged at some trams - though not in vent, just to corn in rl - at a few harrowers and spawns. though i really cant be blamed for it, trust me. SO FRIGGIN FRUSTRATING. it still frustrates me now, just thinking about it.

rage... building...

[iddqd]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Que

Imbuing is for nubs.

dude, the suit you can make now far surpasses anything ive ever been able to make, and ive sold suits for decent cash.

[iddqd]

plus taking the totally rng-based element out of the crafting process is a good idea, and theyve done it in a great way - rather than making stuff like wow that is complete cookie cutter 'the general's sword' (or whatever) that is identical to everyone else, causing the crafting of the item only to be useful in a skill-gain sense, rendering the craft element of the game almost redundant, they leave the actual item properties up to the player, meaning that there is still uniqueness to the items being built.

the way theyve constructed imbuing as a game mechanic is one of the best things ive seen in MMO development for a long time.

[Clog|Mordain]

Originally Posted by iddqd

plus taking the totally rng-based element out of the crafting process is a good idea, and theyve done it in a great way - rather than making stuff like wow that is complete cookie cutter 'the general's sword' (or whatever) that is identical to everyone else, causing the crafting of the item only to be useful in a skill-gain sense, rendering the craft element of the game almost redundant, they leave the actual item properties up to the player, meaning that there is still uniqueness to the items being built.

the way theyve constructed imbuing as a game mechanic is one of the best things ive seen in MMO development for a long time.

I agree with you dal, mostly. The only thing they ****ed up with imbuing is being able to put 255 durability on an item. If an item with 255 durability is looked after, it would outlast the game if it was possible. Perhaps drop it to say 100-150.

[Elwood]

Originally Posted by Petrify

Dal was easily in the top tier of pvpers when UO was actually good and he was probably the smartest player I've pvped with.

Lol, pet are you obsessed with me or what? You are the first to reply to every one of my posts, even when it has nothing to do with you.


BTW, when you are finished sucking Dal's **** make sure you wipe your chin.

[Elwood]

Originally Posted by iddqd

ive pvp'd exactly once since ive played, and played probably a total of about 8 hours in about a month. the last time i played before that was a over a year before.

That's the time I was talking about, I don't play now, I haven't played in months. You played for a while back then but you didn't improve to the point where I would have considered you even half decent. You were just crap. You did whinge about the pvp changes a lot though, and you like to make excuses.

in fact, i dont even know where you would have seen me - were you one of the 8 guys who got owned by the rons and ash, while i was there being so useless that i was basically fighting for you guys?

You sound like paradox...

but thanks for your input. maybe if you trash me some more ill get the incentive.

i'm not trashing you I'm just giving my opinion. I have no interest in whether you play or not.

[Petrify]

Originally Posted by Elwood

Lol, pet are you obsessed with me or what? You are the first to reply to every one of my posts, even when it has nothing to do with you.

Nope. They were talking about imbuing, current pvp and **** which i couldn't talk about since i don't play... you referred to the past so i put my opinion in.

BTW, when you are finished sucking Dal's **** make sure you wipe your chin.

Nah i swallow, don't worry he wont get any on my chin.

[iddqd]

lol dude, ive NEVER played with, against or around you before the other night (which was probably 3 weeks ago now.) so i think youre ****ing confused. i assure you, even at my crappest at the last time i played, idve happily smoked you. my 'crapness' back then (which was before you joined this server) was relative - when you go from being top 5 on the server (back when there were a decent number of pvpers, btw) to not, it means youve become 'crap'.

right now, i havent played in so long that im basically at the same point i was after about 3 months from the first time i started, except i just know more about the game.

so thanks again for your opinion, i see its as worthless as its been made out to be.

[Elwood]

Originally Posted by iddqd

lol dude, ive NEVER played with, against or around you before the other night (which was probably 3 weeks ago now.) so i think youre ****ing confused.

Dal get off the drugs, I haven't played in at least 3 months. Venus owns my old account, he has done since around January, so if you've seen my old chars then he must be still using the account. Feel free to ask anyone in my old guild to verify that. You're right on one thing, we never played together but when you returned to join SSO the first time I fought against you plenty of times, as did all of our other active members at the time, and you were rubbish. Granted you didn't play for a long period but I didn't even see a glimpse of pvp ability.

i assure you, even at my crappest at the last time i played, idve happily smoked you.

Hahaha, come on man you lose all credibility with a comment like that. You were dreadful, only a match for some of our noob members at the time.

my 'crapness' back then (which was before you joined this server) was relative - when you go from being top 5 on the server (back when there were a decent number of pvpers, btw) to not, it means youve become 'crap'.

Why would I care about your pvp skill prior to me joining oceania? (offer more excuses btw...)

right now, i havent played in so long that im basically at the same point i was after about 3 months from the first time i started, except i just know more about the game.

I don't give a **** about how bad you are now or why, just like I don't care about how good you say you were before I joined the shard. The time I have been talking about is when you returned approx a year or so ago as you said.

so thanks again for your opinion, i see its as worthless as its been made out to be.

I am assuming from your reaction that my 'opinion' has dented your pride.... sorry about that.