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We would like to hear your oppinion on Pet Dyes. Please read the top of the survey and take a close look at the screenshots prior to filling it out. There are 2 pages to this survey so please ensure that you check out the second page.



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[JC the Builder]

This is a terrible idea. Their bad enough on test center. Say no to pet dyes.

[deraiky]

Off-white looks liek the pet is dead and will produce a lot of confusion in pvp..
NOT COOL!

2nd : i think pets should look natural and i dont like the idea hueing them at all.

Let the color puzzle at the end of the "puzzle minigames" drop some new artifacts (not the ones earned at the champ spawns) but some special, unique ones or some deco stuff - its hard enough and should be worth the time.

but pet dyes - NO !

[Farsight]

*gags*

I hate this idea. I really hate this idea.

[Goodmann]

If the off white CONFUSES you in pvp well maybe you really should not be pvping.

GREAT JOB dev team this looks very promising.

[Specialshoes]

Dyes only if-

The owner receives an intelligence penalty and the animal suffers from reduced control because it is embarrassed to be seen in public like that.

[Cetric GL]

IS THIS SOME SICK JOKE OR WHAT! I could see doing some quest or something to change the color of your pet, to a reasonable color that pet should come in....BUT CMON!

[the 4th man]

These dyes are gonna turn regular shards into test............and yet another money making product.

To thee I say nay,nay, nay!!!!!!

Bad idea.

[Maximus Neximus]

Can you imagine the dread mares/ nightmares dyed to faction warhorse color...

[deraiky]

and yet another money making product.

you get it as a reward of the neutralize puzzle in the underworld.

[Maplestone]

Poor Petra

[Eyes of Origin]

I like most of the colors.... some are a lil obnoxious for pets tho. I marked which ones I liked and didnt like Hope this makes it to release.

[ChrissayEAMythic]

Originally Posted by the 4th man

These dyes are gonna turn regular shards into test............and yet another money making product.

To clear up confusion on this it is a reward for completing a puzzle in the Under World. It is FREE to anyone who completes the puzzle.

[mrawdtsi]

[deraiky]

Probably the best post yet ^^

[Siteswap]

*Checks Calendar* It isnt April 1st is it? This has to be a wind up by the Devs surely?

[guum]

Ooooh...pretty! I like!

(ducks rotten tomatoes and eggs from the peanut gallery)

I'd probably prefer slightly more "natural" colors though.

[Crysta]

Originally Posted by Siteswap

*Checks Calendar* It isnt April 1st is it? This has to be a wind up by the Devs surely?

It was available on Retribution for the entirety of open beta. No joke whatsoever, sadly.

[Demonous]

horrible idea, i really hope they listen and don't put this into effect

[Otis Firefly]

Originally Posted by mrawdtsi

i love this!!!!!!!!!

[Tina Small]

Originally Posted by Crysta

It was available on Retribution for the entirety of open beta. No joke whatsoever, sadly.

Just like a few other controversial things (e.g., pet rez by NPC or via an elixer).

[Deb]

I like the black for my pets the rest to each their own.

Actually maybe the banana trees could be thrown in there
for a reward also ')

[Storm]

I like the idea for one simple reason it will make spotting my own pet easier if they are not all the same color

[UOKaiser]

We love it. You just picked the wrong forum to get your answers. Too many in these forums are old school black and white people and that's already too much color for them. The people that don't like colors can just adjust there display in the monitor settings so it can all be grey

[Demonous]

Originally Posted by ChrissayEAMythic

To clear up confusion on this it is a reward for completing a puzzle in the Under World. It is FREE to anyone who completes the puzzle.

true but u get a random color so some people will pay well for certain colors they want

[Cetric GL]

all i can picture is horrible neon dragons everywhere, and as one poster said, people dying their dread mares faction horse colors and confusing people. Tamers don't belong in fel anyways, and i try to avoid putting myself on foot to dismount a tamer...what a terrible surprise that would be.

[Martyna Zmuir]

Worst. Idea. Ever.

Animals already look hideous enough in the enhanced client.. Why would we want to compound the issue by making them poorly hued, blurry, pixelated monstrosities?

[Ken of Napa]

Originally Posted by UOKaiser

We love it. You just picked the wrong forum to get your answers. Too many in these forums are old school black and white people and that's already too much color for them. The people that don't like colors can just adjust there display in the monitor settings so it can all be grey

It's not really for me, so I won't use. However lots of people will really like this so why not? It's not like it'll really effect me one way or another.

If it makes a portion of the population happy then go for it! If you don't care for the colors, do like I'll do and don't color your pets! I really don't care what anyone else does with their pets.

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by UOKaiser

We love it. You just picked the wrong forum to get your answers. Too many in these forums are old school black and white people and that's already too much color for them. The people that don't like colors can just adjust there display in the monitor settings so it can all be grey

It's not that we don't like color. It is just that this is a slippery slope type deal. The next step is that we are going to have to duck coyotes dropping anvils on our heads.

[rawwr1978]

Awesome idea. The player base has been wanting this for awhile now and looks as if we are going to have it. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see that the polls indicate more people for it than against it. I think one other poster had it right if you don't like the colors then play in black and white. GOOD JOB SO FAR ON SA!

[Barry Gibb]

Originally Posted by Demonous

true but u get a random color so some people will pay well for certain colors they want

It is their gold to spend.

Originally Posted by Ken of Napa

It's not really for me, so I won't use. However lots of people will really like this so why not? It's not like it'll really effect me one way or another.

I feel the same way.

If folks really don't like this idea, they should take the survey, let them know.

Stayin Alive,

BG

[Eyes of Origin]

If some dont like it, dont use it. The rest of us who do like it will use it. We have to look at the hideous pink armor people are going to be making with staining, so why cant I have a dark red dragon or a dark green horse?

Some of the colors are a lil bright, but those colors werent even on the survey. It looks like some of the colors have already been eliminated, but I'm just assuming cause I dont see every color I originally saw.

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by Eyes of Origin

If some dont like it, dont use it. The rest of us who do like it will use it. We have to look at the hideous pink armor people are going to be making with staining, so why cant I have a dark red dragon or a dark green horse?

The problem being that we will have to look at your pets. And that makes two of us that are not happy about the pink in staining.

[IceCast[AI]]

Whoever came up with this idea is a heavy abuser of the c r a c k Bong

[Demonous]

Originally Posted by rawwr1978

Awesome idea. The player base has been wanting this for awhile now and looks as if we are going to have it. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see that the polls indicate more people for it than against it. I think one other poster had it right if you don't like the colors then play in black and white. GOOD JOB SO FAR ON SA!

huh? the player base hasn't been wanting this i dunno where you are getting your info from... and don't say closed beta forums, too many trammies got invited to that

[guum]

A compromise: how about, instead of wholesale dunking the pet in a dye tub, instead come out with a set of "warpaint" designs...tattoos and the like that can be painted onto pets that will help customize them but will be more natural-looking and less offensive to the eyes of those who are turned off by bright colors?

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by guum

A compromise: how about, instead of wholesale dunking the pet in a dye tub, instead come out with a set of "warpaint" designs...tattoos and the like that can be painted onto pets that will help customize them but will be more natural-looking and less offensive to the eyes of those who are turned off by bright colors?

I could actually see this.
I would actually even use this. So long as the obnoxious level is toned down.

[Tina Small]

Originally Posted by Cetric GL

all i can picture is horrible neon dragons everywhere, and as one poster said, people dying their dread mares faction horse colors and confusing people. Tamers don't belong in fel anyways, and i try to avoid putting myself on foot to dismount a tamer...what a terrible surprise that would be.

BINGO!

But I guess people who never go to Fel won't give a hoot about the nasty surprises this is going to cause. They'll only wake up about what a truly horrid idea this is when someone tries to scam them using dyed pets.

Bad idea and I hope it gets scrapped.

[phantus]

Originally Posted by UOKaiser

We love it. You just picked the wrong forum to get your answers. Too many in these forums are old school black and white people and that's already too much color for them. The people that don't like colors can just adjust there display in the monitor settings so it can all be grey

Don't worry. It's only the vocal minority that don't like the colors in game. More than half of the people who actually play the game with vote for it.

Then again, it's an IP based poll. Meaning those with enough IP's(like me) can make the poll lopsided if they chose to. It should require account info and be tied to EA servers not monkeys.

[Tina Small]

Originally Posted by phantus

Don't worry. It's only the vocal minority that don't like the colors in game. More than half of the people who actually play the game with vote for it.

Then again, it's an IP based poll. Meaning those with enough IP's(like me) can make the poll lopsided if they chose to. It should require account info and be tied to EA servers not monkeys.

The ability exists for the UO team to create a poll that you take when you log in. Too bad it is rarely used.

[phantus]

Originally Posted by Tina Small

The ability exists for the UO team to create a poll that you take when you log in. Too bad it is rarely used.

It really is. It would really make a difference in the game.

[Uvtha]

I think a better idea would be to have certain tamables just spawn in a range of colors, like predadator hell hounds spawn in a range of reds.

That way you would know what looked good, and thematically it would be more sensible that pet painting.

[Jhym]

I've always hated these dye jobs because the ENTIRE animal is the same color hue. I wouldn't have an issue if it was a secondary hue, like crest and tail, or barding or whatever.

Plus, they really need to make the colors ones that do NOT spawn, otherwise people will attempt to scam others with the colors.


*sigh*

[Eyes of Origin]

I dont think the colors that are listed on the survey are all that bright.. I do not see one single neon color on there. I see darker colors, minus the off white and maybe bright red and orange. The rest are muted, so why are people complaining about neon colors?
Like I said... if you can stain your armor pink and offend me with that, I should be able to dye my dragon dark red

[MalagAste]

Um..... how many of you actually LOOKED at the colors? As far as I could see .... none of them were "neon".... bright or flashy. Most of them were darker... subdued.....

And I hate to say this but I don't think it's that bad.... I actually kinda like the idea of being able to color my pet making it even more "personalized"... and easier to distinguish from the other 200 pets...

We already have colored pets, CuSidhe, Hiryu, 2 colors of mares... Bright blue beetles and Fire steeds..... many of which come much brighter colored than any of the choices they are offering. The brightest there is White.... and if we all recall the millions of WW's you always used to see.... this is no different...


The biggest beef I have is that this is just going to line the pockets of more vendors... since folk like me don't have time to spend 40 hours a week doing quests... and I'm hoping this quest ISN'T scriptable.....

So I would rather the colors were permanent..... not only making one seriously consider what they are doing before they do it.

[The Fallout]

NONE of these colors are obnoxious like the ones on test, how bout some of you actually look at them before going on your annoying rants.

I LOVE these colors.

[XLaCeDX]

Originally Posted by guum

A compromise: how about, instead of wholesale dunking the pet in a dye tub, instead come out with a set of "warpaint" designs...tattoos and the like that can be painted onto pets that will help customize them but will be more natural-looking and less offensive to the eyes of those who are turned off by bright colors?

Except for the black and white colors since they occur in nature on real pets I agree. Black horses already exist in-game via an exploit so this will allow non-cheaters to own a black, or close to black anyways, horse.


Put faction horses on the "undyeable" list.


Make all the more unnatural shades, reds, blues, greens, appear as spots so the pets are dappled rather than monochrome? Those dyes should just appear as green, blue or red spots on pet hindquarters or wings or tails if time allows before SA's release.


I have loved this idea since Test Sosaria days, when my first dyed pet was a dryad green horse, which is a very soothing color.

I also once owned a whitemare on test which I really loved.

And a pink sparkle beetle.

And on Halloween test gray/purple and some sparkle shade mares that got changed to sheeps in a costume gate. Omg, they were sooo cute!

Could you maybe add hue numbers 1172, bod cloth red/blue, 1166, bod cloth pure pink, 1169, bod cloth lemon yellow, 1156 navy bod cloth color, 1151 or 1157 can't read my handwriting blood red but think it's a 7, 1167 dryad green, and last but not least, 1198, which is black with a green eye on some mares, forget which.

These hue numbers come from Test Sosaria and an old piece of notebook paper that is yellow and ragged. I have kept it all these years since Test Sosaria and the universal dye tubs Hanse installed for us there.

I haven't included any sparkle hues or neon hues that are on my hues list, just the more calming or natural hues.

GO DEVS!

[Maximus Neximus]

Originally Posted by Tina Small

BINGO!

But I guess people who never go to Fel won't give a hoot about the nasty surprises this is going to cause. They'll only wake up about what a truly horrid idea this is when someone tries to scam them using dyed pets.

Bad idea and I hope it gets scrapped.

Very good point.....

Selling mare with xxxx stats!.... Turns out to be a dyed horse.

[The Fallout]

Originally Posted by Cetric GL

all i can picture is horrible neon dragons everywhere, and as one poster said, people dying their dread mares faction horse colors and confusing people. Tamers don't belong in fel anyways, and i try to avoid putting myself on foot to dismount a tamer...what a terrible surprise that would be.

Hey, take a peek at the colors, there are no neons.

Is this going to boil down to a "rawr I hate tamers they dont deserve colors rawr" because it seems like it.

[The Fallout]

Originally Posted by Maximus Neximus

Very good point.....

Selling mare with xxxx stats!.... Turns out to be a dyed horse.

Animal Lore.

[phantus]

Originally Posted by MalagAste

So I would rather the colors were permanent..... not only making one seriously consider what they are doing before they do it.

They should be upon death they lose color. This would keep them being needed and a purpose for the quest more often.

[phantus]

Originally Posted by The Fallout

Animal Lore.

Too much logic. Logic has no place in this discussion. If you don't like colored pets you are a trammie whiner that wants to play hello kitty online. I'm sorry but I got this info from some very reliable sources.

[chrisjwhite]

The black dragons look pretty sweet. They should be in game. Not sure about everything else though.

[Dermott of LS]

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Leave the inane dying on TC. I don't mind creatures spawning in reasonable hue variations, but pet dying? Oh god no.

And for the "If you don't want it, you don;t have to dye your pet"... that's all well and good... do we get a filter (at least in the Enhanced Client) to un-dye YOUR pet on OUR screen?

It's already bad enough that an EM event gets covered up in dragon wings, doe sit have to turn into flapping technicolor puke as well? I mean take the images posted here about the Shadowlord spawns with the PILES of dragons... now imagine that looking like a United Colors of Benneton advertisement.

I don't mind color and all, but let's be reasonable. Pet dying is a Test Center gimmick and should always be nothing more than that IMO.

[Mitzlplik_SP]

Originally Posted by guum

A compromise: how about, instead of wholesale dunking the pet in a dye tub, instead come out with a set of "warpaint" designs...tattoos and the like that can be painted onto pets that will help customize them but will be more natural-looking and less offensive to the eyes of those who are turned off by bright colors?

Now that is a great idea. I would love to have my GD all tatted up,hehe. Forgot to mention that I like the pet dye idea.I would freeking love to have my GD dyed black. I hope it makes it in.

[tjalle]

Originally Posted by mrawdtsi

I´m with the dog on this one...

I do think the idea is interesting though but personally, I don´t think I´m ready to have the game I like look like a damn circus ingame.

I do however think that this idea is do-able:

Originally Posted by guum

A compromise: how about, instead of wholesale dunking the pet in a dye tub, instead come out with a set of "warpaint" designs...tattoos and the like that can be painted onto pets that will help customize them but will be more natural-looking and less offensive to the eyes of those who are turned off by bright colors?

And since the dog pic is so funny, we´ll throw it in here one more time.

[Mijac_Chmon]

It takes away the need to search for the right pet. Once again, this is a stupid example of giving players everything they want on a platter instead of making them work for it. It's the easy way out.

I know you will have to complete a Quest for it, but once that Quest is figured out it will just be powergamed and will become no challenge.

Plus, the monotone pets look crap. There should be some multi-toning to all creatures in the game.

[It Lives]

Originally Posted by ChrissayEAMythic

To clear up confusion on this it is a reward for completing a puzzle in the Under World. It is FREE to anyone who completes the puzzle.

I would rather have a old ride rather than new colors.... umm like The silver steed....the opposing ride to the dreadmare..

Mabey five to six hues of the original steed coloring.

[Tina Small]

Originally Posted by Mijac_Chmon

It takes away the need to search for the right pet. Once again, this is a stupid example of giving players everything they want on a platter instead of making them work for it. It's the easy way out.

I know you will have to complete a Quest for it, but once that Quest is figured out it will just be powergamed and will become no challenge.

Yep, soon enough all the puzzle solutions will be posted on fan sites and the only challenge will be making it to the correction locations to do the puzzles. And if you can't be bothered with doing that, you'll always be able to buy the dye from your favorite vendor.

[Crysta]

Originally Posted by Tina Small

Yep, soon enough all the puzzle solutions will be posted on fan sites and the only challenge will be making it to the correction locations to do the puzzles. And if you can't be bothered with doing that, you'll always be able to buy the dye from your favorite vendor.

Actually, all of the ones to get to the dyes are completely random.. there's nothing that could be posted.

[Beastmaster]

I didn't see 1 person here acknowledge the fact that the dye wears off in 7 days. Can no one here read? It was mentioned at the top and then made into question #2.

As Fallout said, I see alot of the negative posters here as nothing more than anti-tamer flamers. Everything that is offered up for tamers immediately draws the wrath of that vocal minority. It was recently acknowledged in another thread here that taming is absolutely the hardest skill to train, yet this bunch of flamers rises against them getting anything.

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by It Lives

Who Cares If it wears off, the last ****ing thing I want to see is a bubble gum colored Greater dragon named bubbles rolling along **** that ****!Wtf!

Where exactly did you see "bubblegum" color? Did you bother voting against colors you didn't want to see? No? Just another bandwagon jumper?

BTW, I'd like to see some browns, tans, blonds in the mix. Personally I'd replace the blues with those and maybe keep the dark blue.

[Uthar Pendragon]

While random they may be there is still a limited amount of puzzles availible to choose from. good note taking and they will all be figured out soon enough.

I dont mind it if the colors are normal for that animal to come in but the llamas and beetles well they would look just bad.

[phantus]

Originally Posted by It Lives

Who Cares If it wears off, the last ****ing thing I want to see is a bubble gum colored Greater dragon named bubbles rolling along **** that ****!Wtf!

JOY!

New Dragon name in
3

2

1


Bubbles!!!

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

As Fallout said, I see alot of the negative posters here as nothing more than anti-tamer flamers. Everything that is offered up for tamers immediately draws the wrath of that vocal minority. It was recently acknowledged in another thread here that taming is absolutely the hardest skill to train, yet this bunch of flamers rises against them getting anything.

Nope love my tamer. Won't give up my tamer. Don't want want the streets to run with gum drops and lollipops.

[Duke SP]

Originally Posted by UO Herald News

We would like to hear your oppinion on Pet Dyes. Please read the top of the survey and take a close look at the screenshots prior to filling it out. There are 2 pages to this survey so please ensure that you check out the second page.



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Didn't they get rid of the neon dyes because of stupidity?

[It Lives]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

Where exactly did you see "bubblegum" color? Did you bother voting against colors you didn't want to see? No? Just another bandwagon jumper?

BTW, I'd like to see some browns, tans, blonds in the mix. Personally I'd replace the blues with those and maybe keep the dark blue.

yes I did vote beast master, look at" bright red" and tell me it isn't pink.

This pastel craze is bs.

[Trebr Drab]

I don't like this idea as is. Some posted an idea of war paint, and I thought that was good.

But what's really wrong with this game is that horses are useless, ethies are too easy, and dragons (and others) are over powered. Where has common sense gone? Did UO developers discover an open window that says "throw out common sense here"?

[aoLOLita]

I like the idea - and the color choices Myself, I've always thought the pack beetle's carapace should have been able to be "painted" different colors.

Now if we could get some flower decals for his beetle bug, my hippie miner would feel he's back in the 60's again

[Bombastic Fail]

I would be ok with this under 1 option; It be for faction && make faction colors only!! TB Purple, COM Blue, Minax Red, and SL Green. Thats it. Add more things to make factions more desireable. Link it to towns.


PS: Please dont do the dark green. Some people have Dark Green OLD SL War Horses, that are very rare (probably the closest to a rare mount in game besides the illegal Anceint Wyrm and Silver Steeds). If you do the "DARK GREEN" color; the rarity just goes out the window.

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by Trebr Drab

Where has common sense gone? Did UO developers discover an open window that says "throw out common sense here"?

Common sense left when the marketers got a louder voice. WHen marketers can sit around a table and say "Let's not waste money on packaging and advertising. We have a bunch of pixel junkies that will pay for anything we offer them." Just look at Pogo. People spend insane amount of cash on Pogo for pixels and they can't even swap the stuff like we do.

[Basara]

I have mixed feelings

I would support the dyes under the following conditions:

1. Get rid of the oranges, and a lot of the bright/dull colors (the Bright red/pink is particularly irksome, if the date isn't 14 February). 8-10 colors should be plenty.

2. Restrict it to pets of 3 control slots, or more (with a possible exception of armored swampies). This would give people who aren't tamers a few options (mostly beetles), but prevents a flood of garishly dyed horses, llamas and ostards (I shudder to imagine what a dyed ridgeback would look like). IT would allow miners to "tone down" their fire beetle, and tamers to personalize their big pets to better track them.

3. Make it last more than 7 days; say a 5% chance per death that the dye will wear off at the end of 14 days. So, if a dyed dragon dies 12 times during the 14 days it retains its color, but on day 15 or later, the next death will have a 60% chance the dye is lost (and the death after that will be 65%, etc.)

[Bombastic Fail]

Not to mention; doesn't anyone remember the rage and uproar when the tokuno dyes were on the swampys? Man those things hurt my eyes.

[Nastia Cross]

PLEASE I BEG YOU GODS OF UO NO PET DYES EVER!!!! Please, please, PLEASE do not implement pet dyes!!

[Sakkarah_Mythic]

Originally Posted by Tina Small

They'll only wake up about what a truly horrid idea this is when someone tries to scam them using dyed pets.

As a clarification, dyed pets will have a "dyed" tag on them visible on mouse over to reduce the risks of scams. This tag appears below the pet's name (like an item property), so it will not affect other tags the pet may have.

The puzzle you obtain the dyes from is not from the puzzle boxes. It will always be 100% random anytime you do it. No "solutions" can be posted for it as it is generated in real time as you're doing it. It can also only be done once a day per character.

[Hanokh1967]

very bad idea

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by aoLOLita

Now if we could get some flower decals for his beetle bug, my hippie miner would feel he's back in the 60's again

Well that would give my macer a reason to walk around with a shield and a club and give some sense to a dirty hippy.

[Nvnter]

I am Saying YES! My Green Mouser a Tamer for many many years can have green pets. It has been a while since this game made me felt childish but I absolutely Love the Idea. Its all about diversity and in no way does the color of a pet affect gameplay. I do suggest that they make the scouring dye a rare. lets us dye our pets but make it a challenge to change the color if we dont like it. Also make the the pet paint job permanent except for scouring usage. When I dye my clothes and armor the color sticks so should my pets.

[Damia TMC]

Peronally I love the idea of colored pets, yes I want a pink dragon. Thow stones if you want, I think this is a wonderful idea, and I haven't talked to anyone personally yet that didn't like the idea. The ones who like it are afraid to post because they'll get flamed.

The puzzles are really hard, you have to get through the different rooms in 30 minutes.
If you make a wrong move, or take too long to make a move, you're booted back to the beginning no matter which room you're in. I have no idea how many rooms there are, I made it into the second room once, got booted back to the beginning and didn't make it through the first room again before my gem expired.

Each time I had to start over it was a completely different pattern, there's no walk throughs to post, no way to cheat at this, it changes everytime you're sent back to the beginning, which happens a lot. I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of these in game, and it's a shame it only lasts for 7 days as hard as it is to get through.

[mbraud4]

Garbage idea, trammies go back in your cave on this one. You guys dont even know how to experience this game to the fullest so ur opinion doesnt count IMO. Scrap this idea fellahs....

[Dermott of LS]

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mbruad, this "Trammie" does NOT want pet dying so you can put away the broad brush k.thx.

[Old Man of UO]

Not sure why such an out cry. I don't mind most of the colors (orange- yech). Some pets come in colors now, and will be the ones you can't dye. No one has complained about those before. So I say why not; don't dye your pet if you don't like it.

[mbraud4]

Originally Posted by Old Man of UO

Not sure why such an out cry. I don't mind most of the colors (orange- yech). Some pets come in colors now, and will be the ones you can't dye. No one has complained about those before. So I say why not; don't dye your pet if you don't like it.

We should also insert hello kitty tokens, where you can use them to get a roaming Hello Kitty or maybe a Power Ranger token, that way whoever wants one to follow them aroudn they can use a token and voila! U have a power ranger walking aroudn UO. Oh and oh yeah...if you dont like the idea, dont use the token...

Silly Logic...Some things are un-needed....when u start looking for ways to improve a game that rly serves no purpose then u end up destroying the game...just my 2 cents.

[Fink]

*clears throat*

A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!

Thank you.

[Turles]

i voted no the real servers are not test and should never be made it be anymore like test. before putting anything like in how about fixing things that are needed point balance in factions or waiting for sa and start balancing everything because we all know it will need a balance. just like every other expansion it will be very buggy and broken so please before ever thinking of doing that fix the things that really need to be fixed please

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by mbraud4

Silly Logic...Some things are un-needed....when u start looking for ways to improve a game that rly serves no purpose then u end up destroying the game...just my 2 cents.

YES! This is the equivalent of adding cousin Oliver to the Brady Bunch.

[MissEcho]

As I posted in the beta forum:

I am afraid I cannot believe how petty this whole thing is.

Whenever asked about a change the first thing anyone should do is step back from their 'own' likes and dislikes and ask themselves a couple of questions:

Is this going to affect game balance? (ie will anyone become overpowered/underpowered)...... No (has no bearing on game balance)
Is this something that will be exploited, as in scripted so that normal players will not be able to compete?......... No (once a day quest)
Is this a permanent change to an item/person/pet that has potential upsides/downsides to game play, if so what are they? ......... No (is a 'temporary' change to a 'color')
Will this have an adverse effect on another template/item use?......... No (is a 'temporary' change to a 'color')
Is this just a novelty/quirky/fun thing to do? ie does it 'enhance' the game play experience for anyone? ....... Yes (some people will have fun with it, it makes no difference anything)
Is it only just a graphical change? .......... Yes (a temporary graphic change at that)

This shouldn't be about whether he likes the colors, she likes the colors or if I like the colors. Frankly, his, her and my opinions on color are not worth a thing in this debate. Color is subjective, always will be.

For those tossing up hands and saying noooooooooo!! come on, really, why on earth is it such a big deal? Basically, those not interested in having a ''colored" pet will in all likelihood do the quest once, use a dye 'once' or 'sell' it if it can be sold and be done with it. End of story. The ONLY reason to say no is that you wish to deny those who 'do' want to regularly 'dye' their pet the opportunity. It does NOT effect you in the slightest, so stop being so petty.

Those who wish to use the dyes should be able to either do the quest over and over each day if they so chose to get a random dye and blow this on their pet til they get the 'right' color, or pay whatever prices the vendors elect to 'charge' for these dyes. All in all they are available to all either free or for a fee and those who wish to will do it and those who don't won't. It could actually be a way for newbie players to make a little petty cash supplying 'pet dyes' to those who have nothing better to waste their money on. Not only that it could 'add' a lot of fun or open some potential to player run events such as horse races or chicken fights where the pet is in 'color' etc. Heaps of potential for FUN here.

As for all the authenticity, immersion, not 'UO' comments, frankly, there is so much in UO that is far from whatever is supposed to be 'normal' that that argument went out a LONG time ago. All you are talking about here is a 'color'.

There is NOTHING wrong with the actual proposal(it shouldn't even 'need' to be asked as to whether it should go in). The only thing that may need debate/consultation should be based on the following options:

Color:

Would you prefer:
1. Colors As shown
2. Colors As shown (no black/white)
3. Colors - muted tones (no neons/brights)
4. Colors - muted tones only (no neons/brights, no black/white).

Timer:

1. 7 days as shown.
2. 14 days.
3. Hour based (ie 25 hrs in game time).
4. Permanent until pet death.


I just don't believe how selfish some people can be. Your personal likes and dislikes have NO BEARING on this issue.

My personal views are:

Do I like all the colors? ............ nope, some are ok, some are revolting.
Am I going to bother dying my pets? ................. Probably not.
Would I try selling dyes for a profit? .......... Probably (depends on difficulty v profit ratio)
Do I care if someone else wants to dye their pet? ............ NO

But guess what? MY PERSONAL VIEWS DON'T MATTER.

[JC the Builder]

I feel so strongly about this I made a signature image. Anyone else is free to adopt this image as well if they like. Even use the same host.

http://www.hot-guild.com/images/petdyesig.jpg

I am afraid I cannot believe how petty this whole thing is.

Expressing your dislike for a proposed addition to the game is not petty.

[Malimus]

Good idea but too many colors and too many very un-natural colors.

[Demonous]

Look at it this way EA, if you implement pet dyes, you will be pissing off a lot of people while pleasing some, if you DO NOT implement pet dyes, no one will be affected negatively, therefore it makes sense to not introduce them so that no one is upset

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by MissEcho

But guess what? MY PERSONAL VIEWS DON'T MATTER.

Exactly. So why should anyone step back and answer your questions if it doesn't matter.

As for your questions basically boiling down to why not if it doesn't bother me.

It does bother me. I don't play this game for other people's enjoyment. I play it because I enjoy it. And I don't enjoy the idea of having to have my eyes gouged out any further by the great color sense that alot of the UO community has.

[The Fallout]

Originally Posted by MissEcho

As I posted in the beta forum:

I am afraid I cannot believe how petty this whole thing is.

Whenever asked about a change the first thing anyone should do is step back from their 'own' likes and dislikes and ask themselves a couple of questions:

Is this going to affect game balance? (ie will anyone become overpowered/underpowered)...... No (has no bearing on game balance)
Is this something that will be exploited, as in scripted so that normal players will not be able to compete?......... No (once a day quest)
Is this a permanent change to an item/person/pet that has potential upsides/downsides to game play, if so what are they? ......... No (is a 'temporary' change to a 'color')
Will this have an adverse effect on another template/item use?......... No (is a 'temporary' change to a 'color')
Is this just a novelty/quirky/fun thing to do? ie does it 'enhance' the game play experience for anyone? ....... Yes (some people will have fun with it, it makes no difference anything)
Is it only just a graphical change? .......... Yes (a temporary graphic change at that)

This shouldn't be about whether he likes the colors, she likes the colors or if I like the colors. Frankly, his, her and my opinions on color are not worth a thing in this debate. Color is subjective, always will be.

For those tossing up hands and saying noooooooooo!! come on, really, why on earth is it such a big deal? Basically, those not interested in having a ''colored" pet will in all likelihood do the quest once, use a dye 'once' or 'sell' it if it can be sold and be done with it. End of story. The ONLY reason to say no is that you wish to deny those who 'do' want to regularly 'dye' their pet the opportunity. It does NOT effect you in the slightest, so stop being so petty.

Those who wish to use the dyes should be able to either do the quest over and over each day if they so chose to get a random dye and blow this on their pet til they get the 'right' color, or pay whatever prices the vendors elect to 'charge' for these dyes. All in all they are available to all either free or for a fee and those who wish to will do it and those who don't won't. It could actually be a way for newbie players to make a little petty cash supplying 'pet dyes' to those who have nothing better to waste their money on. Not only that it could 'add' a lot of fun or open some potential to player run events such as horse races or chicken fights where the pet is in 'color' etc. Heaps of potential for FUN here.

As for all the authenticity, immersion, not 'UO' comments, frankly, there is so much in UO that is far from whatever is supposed to be 'normal' that that argument went out a LONG time ago. All you are talking about here is a 'color'.

There is NOTHING wrong with the actual proposal(it shouldn't even 'need' to be asked as to whether it should go in). The only thing that may need debate/consultation should be based on the following options:

Color:

Would you prefer:
1. Colors As shown
2. Colors As shown (no black/white)
3. Colors - muted tones (no neons/brights)
4. Colors - muted tones only (no neons/brights, no black/white).

Timer:

1. 7 days as shown.
2. 14 days.
3. Hour based (ie 25 hrs in game time).
4. Permanent until pet death.


I just don't believe how selfish some people can be. Your personal likes and dislikes have NO BEARING on this issue.

My personal views are:

Do I like all the colors? ............ nope, some are ok, some are revolting.
Am I going to bother dying my pets? ................. Probably not.
Would I try selling dyes for a profit? .......... Probably (depends on difficulty v profit ratio)
Do I care if someone else wants to dye their pet? ............ NO

But guess what? MY PERSONAL VIEWS DON'T MATTER.

Best post in the whole thread. This post tramples on anything anyone said for or against the new dyes.

[Apetul]

Great Idea!!!

[The Fallout]

[MissEcho]

Originally Posted by Specialshoes

Exactly. So why should anyone step back and answer your questions if it doesn't matter.

As for your questions basically boiling down to why not if it doesn't bother me.

It does bother me. I don't play this game for other people's enjoyment. I play it because I enjoy it. And I don't enjoy the idea of having to have my eyes gouged out any further by the great color sense that alot of the UO community has.

Please learn to read.

The questions that 'do matter' are at the top, these are the types of questions everyone should ask themselves when going to make a 'comment' on a new proposal. Anything else that is subjective, such as graphics, color, style, is basically down to personal preference and you will NEVER get all to agree so it is a waste of effort to even bother, making your whole comment on something subjective is a total waste of time and is pretty much invalid.

And yes, you just confirmed my statement:

I just don't believe how selfish some people can be. Your personal likes and dislikes have NO BEARING on this issue.

I have highlighted in RED the part/s of your statement that basically show that you don't care what 'a lot' of the UO community likes/doesn't like and why this whole thing is totally petty. If you don't play for others people's enjoyment and don't like it that a LOT of other ppl may like things different to you then why would you play a MULTIPLAYER GAME.

As I said there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the actual proposal, just a consensus and/or a majority view on the broader 'types' of colors that should be available and the kind of timer on the things.

You all need to think about some of the more 'fun' things that this could engender, such as pet races, pet auctions, fashion parades, selling pet dyes on vendors, etc etc. LOL I love the dude who said well "I might not have time to get them to 'sell' therefore it is a bad idea that others might be able to sell em". This is the typical Uhall thinking.

Stop being so petty and fun killing. It is a temporary dye job. Good grief, need to change the name of this forum from UHall to PettyHall Station.

[Zodia]

Yes please, I like these dyes very much.

A MILLION TIMES, YES!!

Sorry whiners, you lose.

[Specialshoes]

Originally Posted by MissEcho

And yes, you just confirmed my statement:

I have highlighted in RED the part/s of your statement that basically show that you don't care what 'a lot' of the UO community likes/doesn't like and why this whole thing is totally petty. If you don't play for others people's enjoyment and don't like it that a LOT of other ppl may like things different to you then why would you play a MULTIPLAYER GAME.

It's not that I basically don't care what the UO community likes/doesn't. It is that I completely don't care And being a MULTIPLAYER game. I can choose to ridicule and shun those that I don't like and choose to be around people that think a little more along the lines I do to further..... wait for it......wait for it.......MY OWN ENJOYMENT.

And as for petty. Yeah a little. But I'm ok and comfortable with that. Just something you have to deal with in a multiplayer game/

[Sweeney]

The color choices could have been much much better. This is what we're going to see, only replace some of the horses with dragons.



[edit]Heh, after studying the picture.. there are dragons![/edit]

[Dermott of LS]

...

Somewhere in all of that... is a Shadowlord

[canary]

Originally Posted by Zodia

Yes please, I like these dyes very much.

A MILLION TIMES, YES!!

Sorry whiners, you lose.

Why is someone always referred to as a 'whiner' on these boards just because they disagree with others? That always baffles me that people have the gall to use that word. It's a cheap shot, imo, and WAY overused around here.