Tameables found at the area surrounding the Slasher Of Veils. (So were the Hell Hounds but idk what they have normally to know if they were anything special - & couldn't be bothered to find out.)

They need subduing before Taming, though theres no indication when that happens, I Tamed it redlined with about 30 hp left.

They lose their poison immunity when Tamed. Also lose (as far as I can tell) their ability to breath + poison while mounted but they can still breath + poison while attacking.

They can't be armoured.

Notice, they have no prefered food, this probably means you need to take part in the event, pushing one side back completely to get the Blackrock Stew, which is difficult to get, and if you need two of them (one before and one after a week) it could take a lot of effort.

Edit: Forgot to mention, they take 3 follower slots.

um O M G


those do 60+ fire breath damage ? great ...

so they release dread mares basically, but change the art to a swampy. and make it poison user instead of fire.

Is this on TC or a production shard?

Its on TC.

I wonder, Would feeding it the pet treats count as 'food' and let you bond it that way?

I think any food that a tamable accept can bond it for you.

The stats are identical to dreadmares very interesting indeed.
Since I am not on TC could anyone explain a bit more on its poison and breathe attack?

Is it fire breathe attack + the ability to inflect poison on its melee attack? Or is it a poison breathe attack like the hydras? or it casts poison on top of its breathe attacks?

Anyhow it will give the none dreadmare players another chance to load them up, it will be very very interesting if those dreadmares-in-disguise are here to stay permanently.

Thank you.

The breath attack itself poisons.

wow, the breath does damage AND poisons? Seems a bit OP. I hope its a low level poison at least.

Not sure if anyone has asked or tried yet, but difficulty? Being they are in the shape they are, are they a 29.1, or were they much harder to tame and stubborn to commands from those without skills?

Guessing you need taming to control/use these, just like the dread warhorses. This is not an "anyone" tame from the stats. And if it is, the devs seriously F'd up.

And by needing taming/lore I mean you Probably need 90+ of each just like the dread warhorses.

I just heard a BANG......






.......... must be the prices of dread mares dropping?

New art on the bane dragons please. Swamp dragon art looks bad in 2d.

reptalon art would be cool

The mount is cool and I see someone over there found a way to get that pet dye in game. Sneaky...sneaky...

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Based on 600 hp they would do around 36 damage breath to 70% poison resist if I'm reading the description right, but with the breath nerf I'm not sure. Their resistances seem a lot better than a Dread Warhorse though, hm.

I saw this one coming from a mile away, when someone posted the spoilers that they found in the cliloc files. And the resists look to be about the same as a dread warhorse. I'm wondering if they can have barding put on them.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war,
while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
- Sun Tzu -

0 taming -- no chance
25 taming -- no chance
50 taming -- no chance
75 taming -- no chance
90 taming -- no chance
100 taming -- no chance
110 taming -- succeed
105.1 taming -- no chance
109 taming -- succeed
108 taming -- succeed
107 taming -- no chance
107.1 taming -- succeed

107.1 to tame

tamed with 120/100, failed first command to all follow lol and second these are tough buggers to tame

"The creature looks at you strangely and shakes it head no"
(result of dropping rib on it)

doesn't like raw ribs, rofl well i don't know how to get its loyalty up

hell hounds have red names, are red hued, don't seem different from normal ones to me

572/109/135
527 str 109/135
103.8
70/41/45/50/34

Interesting that poison is listed as -- because they can use poisoning in melee when wild, I can't control this guy though worth crap.

Changed to 120/120, now commands seem to work well lol.

LOL these are hard. Even at 120/120 two fails dropped it to Very Happy from stable standing of Extremely.

Lord GOD tested barding said he couldn't

You are aware that dreads have a poison attack as well?

That's probably a good thing. I'd hate to see the resists that these would have if you could put verite barding on them...

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war,
while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
- Sun Tzu -

@Lord GOD what was tamer's loyalty to Bane? I wonder if you need to be Loyal to bane to feed it? Because if you need Blackrock Stew, as you suggest they might, omg, what a worthless thing :P and even if its Blackrock or Blackrock Crystalline, eww, lol.

edit: does not eat crystalline blacrock "shakes its head no." then I tried to take it to rehab, and it said, "no, no no." :/

Like beefier deathwatch beetles hehe :P

Actually swamp dragons look pretty sweet in the enhanced client. That's one of the models that looks a lot better than their 2D counterparts.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war,
while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
- Sun Tzu -

Except they have 4 legs instead of 6 . Do you have to be loyal to the Bane side in order to tame these?

I can't wait for this to hit Origin .

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

nope

I have a blackrock stew if you want it to test what happens?

Do you have any loyalty? I have about 1.7k atm.

Im at the bane camp on Boron.

Thunderz

Ah crap I just logged out. I was the noob on G.v.P Disco something I'll log back in haha.

Tamed a second,
603/103/131
538 103 131
102.4
63/40/38/57/21

do they have pooff trick?

Was just going to post this. Someone try it please?

Like -7000 or worse.

Not from saying "Trick" they don't.

Okay Thunderz and another dude and I tested out stew, two stew got a dragon bonded. Now I'm wondering though if loyalty has any effect on control at all... Thunderz was, and correct me if I'm wrong, like 1700 loyalty i think

Which camps chest did you get the stew from?

Other dude said stew is a quest from Bane side, 20 crystalline turn in for each stew @ 2,000 loyalty (he had 2,500 he said).

Thunderz got one stew off of an Ophidian corpse, but we aren't sure if it looted it from a player either.

Whats that poof thing?

Have bonded one with 2 bowls of stew and got a message "the bane dragon has now returned to maximum power".

Cant work out what there for apart from just a deco event mount as they need 107 taming to controll (got really unhappy with 100 and at 1700 loyalty). They take up 3 slots, from what we tested having loyalty at 1500 and 2500 it doesnt make any difference with reguards to controlability/strength or anything. You only need taming and lore to controll so they dont seem to be linked to the event or loyalty in any way as of yet with reguards to controlling them.
Not sure what one would be like full trained (Need a train gate in new haven to test it).

Thunderz

Do I therefore understand it right that, the tameable Bane Dragons are only "half as good" as compared to Greater Dragons ?

Greater Dragons, infact, take up 5 follower slots which is almost twice as 3............

Or, instead, Bane Dragons with their 3 follower slots are "more bang for the buck", so to speak, as compared to a Greater Dragon ?

Bottom line is, will Bane Dragons make Greater Dragons become obsolete ??

Nah. Nothing is going to top a Greater Dragon for a long, long time. 85 phys 90 fire and up to 999 hp is pretty unbeatable.

I see, so it is just going to "fill in" the Dread Warhorse users ?

Or, I should better say, a new tameable in support of those who missed the Dread Warhorse spawn back then ?

By the way, Dread Warhorses are also 3 follower slots ?

And if so, how do the Bane Dragons compare to the Dread Warhorses ?

Too bad for Gargoyle tamers who cannot ride, though......

I think he just meant the trick dread warhorses do.

Maybe blackrock stew will end up being made by cooks or something. There's got to be a way to feed them once the event ends.

I thought Thunderz got his from a chest, which would mean its still viable to fight for either side, otherwise it isn't.

This is what I have as MAXIMUM post-tame stats, resists and skills for dread warhorses:

650 hit points / 555 strength / 125 dex / 160 intelligence

75% physical / 40% fire / 40% cold / 60% poison / 50% energy

100.0 wrestling
100.0 tactics
100.0 resisting spells
100.0 anatomy
100.0 magery
100.0 evaluate intelligence
100.0 meditation

From the posts made by Lord GOD and G.v.P., it looks like the bane dragons will have stat and skill maximums similar to those for dread warhorses. Resists, though, look like they may be a bit different, i.e., potentially higher fire resist and lower energy resist than found on dread warhorses. Perhaps the bane dragon max resists will work out as 75% / 50% / 40% / 60% / 40%? (Same as dread warhorse except for switching places on the fire and energy maximums.)

No sorry i got it as loot of an orphidian, i got a relic from the chest.

Someone got a new arti from the chest, pair of bone arms, cant fully remember what was on them or there name but it was something like:

casting focus 2%
mr 2%
lmc 5%
lrc 18%
5
9
12
8
18

Thunderz

I had a Dread Warhorse with 162 Int not blessed at the time. Its on an inactive friends account atm though.

Oh, something else I forgot to mention, one of the skills, either Tactics or Resist, was over 100 before Taming on the Bane Dragon.

If they are trying to balance the game (which they are) these were needed. Not everyone got or has a dread, they had to impliment something to give some people a chance to have one.

Hahahaha! the dread gherkin... Hmm, it has the stats, but sadly it lacks the looks lol.

I don't see dreads falling in price to a huge extent, given that they look so much better than the bane dragon. I do pity the PvP community though, because looks aren't so important over in Fel.

Wenchy

The developers do not have to do anything. There are perks for those who leave the accounts constantly open and also perks for those who do events and those who choose not to, I have mini cities on top of my keeps all of them from the magencia rubble, i may sell 1 or 2 pieces but if you missed the event and were upset that you didn't get any you demand the developers put in a way to get it?

You are the player type that pushed AOS, I demand this, I demand that it is not fair. WAA WAAA that guys sword is better than mine we need cookie cutter templates so everything is fair. You want everyone to have the same things go play wow or war hammer, don't bring that crap to this sandbox

Probably tactics, someone posted a dread with 108 tactics at some point (I'm too lazy to find the post atm).

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

Or you could take your selfish hoarding attitude and find another game yourself. This swings both ways, you're not more worth as a subscriber just because you happened to lag up the server at a specific event.

I disagree.

To my opinion, an unbalanced game is a game that for some players is less playable (and thus, less enjoyable.....) than for other players.

This, eventually, alienates players away from the game thus hurting the game's revenues and, consequentially, the ability for all players to play the game (if the servers close down for lack of sufficient revenues no player will be able to play the game any longer.....).

So, balancing the game out, always, at any time, is as I see it paramount to maintaining a lively and competitive game. This, particularly when the game has PvP among its features.

I am a hoarder yes, but i am not selfish, my friends many who have moved on to other games I would give them everything i have if they needed it, or wanted it, I am not the one crying that to even things out that identical items be put into the game because i missed the initial time they came out, if i don't have it and want it i will buy it if and when it becomes available, I will not cry to the developers that you need to change this nurf that, or put other things in the game to counteract a item/pet someone has. I pay the same amount for my accounts as everyone else with the exception of the free accounts. Do I care that someone has a free account? Nope why, you ask, I pay to play this game i also laugh at folks who think that since everyone cannot be identical in items/pets that they are crying that there needs to be something else implemented.

Let me tell you what will happen with these pets. A few years down the line long after the even there will be crying that these are unfair pets and eventually another even with pets will come up, it happens, never fails, and there will be pets come out again with similar stats.

Ok I did get a wisp heads up that a dread was in the offing a while back, but I hoped it was the mare not some SCHOOL BUS that looks horrible.
Tell the Dev to offer the mare again too for the people who ae not fans of the swampie.

Like the idea of pet paint thou, would be nice to have a blue GD again. Also I vote for a few more Stable slots for the 120/120/120 tamer and I do like the idea of Deeds for sale of tamed pets for use on vendors with the ability to do one a week sounds like a nice deal finally for tamers.

Actually you were the one who started crying about it in this thread, wanting things to remain rare. Its your kinds fault that the devs have to create new things all the time, instead of reusing old stuff. They could just as well have made it an actual Dread instead of a svampie hybrid.

This also has nothing to do with being identical, but everything to do with items not being one-offs and be available to paying subscribers.

When the Dread Warhorses hit the scene during the Vanguard Invasion a couple years back, I think it was Draconi that said there would be another spawning of Dread Warhorses or similar pet at a future event. Took them 2 years to get them out to the populous of UO, but they will be a welcome sight to those that are looking for new ride able pets with good skills.
Guess I'll have to get my swampy steering skills dusted off and back up to speed so I can drive one of these Bane Dragons. Last time I drove a swampy, I got stuck on a flower petal outside Oasis...hehe

n/m, when is this going live to reg shards?

haha thats amusing. Why don't you start giving away all your money and all the power scrolls/pinks you may have. Oh and your arties. Some people don't have Ornies or the ability to get massive amounts of relics to get nice imbued gear, so you should give those out also.

Oh you should give out any runics you have, or make items and hand those out to the public also. Because obviously just because you log in and do the work to get runics doesn't make you worth more than someone who doesn't.

It's debatable, unless Bane faction loyalty effects control. Can tame without any faction loyalty, but requires 107.1 taming, which, unless I'm wrong, makes Bane Dragons the hardest tameable in the game. A Greater Dragon is 104.7 and a Fire Steed is 106. So these are pets made for 120/120, while I do not believe you need such skills for a Dread Warhorse ;P.

does it have to be real skill or can one use rings to tame them ?

Dreadmares also required 107.1 btw

I'm pretty sure you can use jewels . Can use jewels on everything else in game (and to bond, as well).

Ah I stand corrected . They seemed easier to tame/control for me for some reason, but I guess it's all the same then!

Its a shame they made these banes for tamers only to use. It would of been nice if they made these banes to be control by anyone, or where you need a certain skill like mystic to control it.

yes, kind of the same way its a shame my mage cant burn a barbed kit...are you insane?

QFT. Lets just make a new race of super beings that have 120 in every skill, even ones that only go to 100 .

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

They exist! They have yellow names and wear fancy hooded robe

Like someone else mentioned:

It would be nice to see these use the Reptalon art.

I agree. Reptalon looks more menacing too.
Otherwise, it might get confused for a regular swampy with shadow barding deed armor.
Seems devs took the easy way out... color the swampy and change it's resists/spells to that of a nightmare. A reptalon riding animation is too much work *rolls eyes*.... reuse the swampy riding art.

/agreed

Plus them requiring max reputation with the bane faction to be able to control them, apposed to being with the orphidion faction and there being some kind of bonus for max reputation with them.

Thunderz

I totally agree!

Yes. I've always thought swampies looked silly.

SIGNED swamp dragons are ugly and the long neck and head are always in the way of thing a total pain in the A$$

SIGNED TWICE (can i do that)

here ya go
*gets on the signing wagon with a case of beer*

I also think Reptalons would be nicer, they're a forgotten ridable as it is because well they arn't that great.
Maybe they will change it seen as so many people feel the same way.

who want 4 slot reptalon without magery? this pet better

I think people here are saying to keep the control slots, stats, and skills the same, but just use the reptalon art for the bane dragon vs the swamp dragon art.

Right

well, someone misread. who want original reptalon just for art, if new pet with same art, less slots and better skills to be released?

Killed a good number of Bane Dragons on Origin and collected some data about the maximum resists and stats.

These are the highest stats I've seen or what I assume the max to be based on the ones that I saw:

HP 650
Str 550
Dex 125 (Might not even be that high freshly tamed)
Int 150 (Saw one at 152 but it might have blessed itself before I lored it)

Resists
Physical 70
Fire 50
Cold 45
Poison 60
Energy 40 (minimum of 20)

Skills
110 tactics
All other skills were below GM

Hope that helps everyone when they're looking for one to keep. If someone finds any information contrary to mine then please correct me.

Thanks for posting that, Stonewall. I had to take a break but I'm going to try to stick around for another hour or so and (assuming you're not there already LOL) will post if I see any maximums higher than what you saw.

Edited to add: Saw one with 151 intelligence, but it might have blessed itself.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here...

In order to tame one of the new Bane Dragons you must:
1) Have access to Stygian Abyss in order to get down to the Slasher of Veils area in order to tame one
2) Be a Tamer over 107.1 taming natural OR have jewelry on to push your taming skill above 107.1
3) Subdue (aka beat down) the Bane Dragon to pretty much red line before being allowed to tame the beast
4) You must have 3 control slots available in order to tame them, once subdued
5) ??Will Bond immediately after being fed a minimum of 2 (two) Blackrock Stew??


*Has anyone tried transferring one from an SA account to a NON-SA account?*
**We must wait for pub66.2 to hit all production shards in order to get one**

I'm not 100% sure about #5, i have yet to get any stew but I thought that it was the only thing they would eat and you would still have to wait the 7 days for it to bond.

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

I've always thought you had to wait a week prior to any pet bonding & that is why I put the question marks at beginning and end.

A comment up around #35 is where I got the bonding after 2 bowls of Blackrock Stew from -

You would have to wait a week on a production shard, but as it was on TC and on TC there is a gate that removes the wait time, you can feed it a bowl befor and after using the gate.

Where does one get the stew?
Are these on Sonoma yet?

The Stew is obtained from one of the quests in the Bane camp. You need 2000 loyalty to Bane (which means killing Ophidians) in order to take the quest, then 10 or 20 Crystalline Blackrock to trade for it, the Crystalline Blackrock drops on the higher waves of spawn (of both camps).

When you gain loyalty with one side you lose 3x as much with the other side.

Something else I've noticed... the mini champ spawns in the Stygian Abyss on TC are giving loyalty towards the gargoyle queen. Idk if they always were but theres a system message for it now. Killing a Renowned gives 50 points.

& no its only on TC and Origin atm.

Signing for the Reptalon Artwork!

Holy smokes they are hard to tame.
I have never tamed a creature that needed to be subdued but could cast magic heal.. As soon as it is low health it starts healing, leaving a very narrow window to taming. When hit with ranged attack it can and often will spit a poison ball. Unlike other breath weapon this damage does NOT diminish with the lowering of it's health. You have to guess when it's subdued due to never getting the message that you have done so. The range on the breath is VERY far. There is not Timer on the breath attack. You CAN be breathed to death with no chance to heal.

i personaly like the swampy look, ive always had a soft heart for them

The down side of those dragons vs the dread war horses is that they are affected by dragon slayer which means that in pvp its better using dread, they have the same resists more or less but they arn't affected by any slayer

hi, I tried to transfer this Bane Dragon to my friend to give to my Sampire and you CANNOT transfer it to a non-tamer.

(Note i didnt have Bane chosen reputation and stuff).

Thats cause you need taming to have one. Its like trying to give a Greater Dragon to your Sampire .

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

I foresee a market for blackrock stew, for tamers who don't want to gain ophidian loyalty.

Indeed, thats why I have my Sampire slaughtering Ophidians lol. And Im not bonding any Bane Dragons until I get myself the perfect one so I dont waste any Stew .

If you are loyal to Bane do the Hellhounds around the Bane Dragon by Slasher ignore you? That would make taming them easier if thats the case. (*Edit* No, even if you are loyal to bane you still get attacked by them in the Abyss).

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

Hey man, make a tamer then, I mean, there's things other players can and cannot use.

I still want mining gloves for a gargoyle, and I can't ride my friggin fire bug no more either. It is what it is.

I'm not a care bear, but a Wonder Pet!!

Found one with 163 int , wasnt blessed, just spawned and didnt aggro anything.

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

god i cant wait for these on the other servers, i want one for my tamer so bad, they are awsome

Woot first one on Great Lakes!!!

Anyone have an idea what the low end is for the stats on these?

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war,
while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
- Sun Tzu -

555 STR is the highest I have seen.

Originally Posted by silent I am beefing up my bush.

i got the first one on sonoma
dont have screenshot @ work

First on Europa